--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well said. Like the person who posted the comment,
> > > "It's raining". There is no "It" that is raining.
> > > Just, "raining." It appears that there is an inner
> > > subject or "I," because consciousness projects into
> > > and assumes the boundaries of mind, and to a lessor
> > > extent, the body. So you end up with "I am having
> > > experience X" but there is no "I" having or not having
> > > anything. There is only "X". The "I" is not
> > > consciousness, but a delusion of subjectivity.
> > > Consciousness has no boundary; it is no-thing.
> > > Ramana's inquiry can bring this realization home very
> > > quickly. Try to find "I". You'll find a very abstract
> > > felt-sense of an "I" or "me". But who is aware of
> > > that? It'll become clear that this "I" is only a
> > > thought.>>
> > 
> > Then it would appear that Ramana did not have the full 
experience, 
> > only a superficial one, true though his conclusions are.
> > The true experience is not so subtle. It is an awe inspiring 
> bright 
> > homogenous energy that hums powerfully just below the surface 
and 
> > explodes into this dimension when the mind reaches it. It is 
> > unbounded, VERY powerful, even scary, but the body that is 
> > experiencing immediately knows that "this Self cannot be wetted, 
> nor 
> > burned, nor dried up, nor killed." It is who we are. It is the 
> > Universe. It is awe-inspiring and we cannot begin to imagine 
what 
> > power it holds and how it can express itself in such a limited 
> > world. This world does not seem strong enough for it to fully 
> > blossom. It would annihilate this plane if it were completely 
> > shining forth. The body could barely remain should such a power 
> show 
> > its true face in this universe.
> > This is my experience. It is the all-powerful non-me that is me, 
> > bright and powerful like the sun, only not centered in one 
place. 
> It 
> > is the One.
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >

> Nice! It is the very diversity of the world that keeps this power 
> fully blossoming. All of the gunas and their various combinations 
> express the fully blossoming force of Oneness. Every fragment, 
every 
> wholeness, indivisible and diverse, infinity in every point and 
> particle, every shadow and shape, every thought and all of 
silence, 
> whether of darkness or light, reflects this and that awesome 
power, 
> of Oneness.
>

Interesting, yes I could see how that would work. My experiences are 
so powerful it would seem good for the world for it not to come 
forth in full force, as this plane would be annihilated. But I can 
see how ever-increasing diversity can absorb its force in almost 
ininitely incremental and nanosecond steps. Unfolding infinitely, 
just like Maharishi describes. As long as it keeps creating like 
that across the whole universe and expanding the universe I could 
see how it can create. Amazing thought. Thankyou.

OffWorld






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