--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > One point I took away, with endless descriptions of deep experience, > with MMY commenting, night after night, month after month, was > labeling was not very important. People had good experience and he > would say, "very good .. keep rounding". And that enlightenment was > never self-proclaimed. Therefore, at least to me, lots of proclaiming, > lots of labeling, lots of prouncments that THIS is the enlightenment > experience, NOT that, all seem very non-MMY to me. It is people out > doing their own thing, not part of what MMY taught.
That's been my impression, although I haven't been around him personally. <snip> > For example, vaj's point, " Siddhi and mahasiddhi: before one attains > full realization (mahasiddhi), one will often experience siddhis. In > the state of realization, mahasiddhi, when can perform siddhis at > will.", to me seems close to what MMY told us when he first gave out > the siddhis. That performance of the siddhi's was the acid-test of cc. > (I know now some say he said UC, but I heard cc on the first sidhi's > course, maybe he changed it later, maybe some didn't hear it directly > at all, but the exaggeration/rumor mill version of it evolved to uc.) FWIW, it was definitely UC when I took the TM-Sidhis in 1984. And I'm virtually positive in an issue I have of Modern Science and Vedic Science, in a long article on the TM-Sidhis, he is quoted as saying exactly that. Unfortunately the issue is in storage. <snip> > think enlightenment is". The point being, I and others are not hung > up on expectations, personally having abandoned such, but simply > pointing out what MMY said. Thus one can claim "Fred's Enlightenment" > and describe it anyway one likes, but you can't claim MMY's CC without > having the criteria he set out for it. Exactly. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
