The first study should be to have each subject practice all three
mantras. What we want to see is the effect of each mantra. With most
research they are just looking at only one mantra. Of course the TMO
would object to such a study but other researchers may not. The subject
should also be a meditator as they will be able to activate the mantra
more quickly than someone who isn't.
Each of these mantras also work on different parts of the body with
respect to the dosha. Wake up foggy headed? Clear your head with with
the kapha mantra hoom though if you really want to clear it try the
Ganesh mantra: om gam ganapataye namaha. Upset stomach? Use the pitta
mantra. Constipation? Try the vata mantra.
These are all "open" not secret mantras used in ayurveda.
On 08/01/2014 10:43 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Bhairitu, I'd like to see that research too. And really go for it,
researching different mantras with different imbalances, at different
times of the year, etc.
On Friday, August 1, 2014 11:53 AM, "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
The research I would like to see is a meditator using different
mantras, particularly the ayurvedic mantras; hoom, shrim and raam to
see how they correlate with brain waves. Science needs to study these
as the effects of sounds as thoughts.
On 08/01/2014 08:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com
<mailto:anartax...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Janov does not look as if he really has the breadth of knowledge to
evaluate meditation in a manner scientists would consider rigorous,
since his practice is limited to a particular kind of therapy. There
are however dangers in meditation; the following web page is a pretty
good summary of some of the things that can happen. The author did
learn TM and became a TM teacher and taught between 1970 and 1975;
this is a general article:
Dangers of Meditation <http://www.lorinroche.com/dangers/homeless.html>
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Dangers of Meditation <http://www.lorinroche.com/dangers/homeless.html>
Welcome to Lorin Roche's site
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <LEnglish5@...>
<mailto:LEnglish5@...> wrote :
I did a web-search. None of Janov's research is indexed in pubmed,
and as far as I can tell, he only published about it in his book.
This is hardly science in the normal sense of the word, where
replications by others is supposed to be, at least in principle,
possible.
If you don't publish so that other scientists can read the details of
the study, it can't be replicated.
So, its great that you can quote him to support your pet peeve, but
be advised that no-one else agrees with him, if for no other reason,
no-one else knows what he did, or found, in any detail.
L
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mjackson74@...>
<mailto:mjackson74@...> wrote :
This will be a short summary of the results of brain-wave studies
conducted on mediators over the past thirty years, and conclusions
that may be drawn from them.
One of the first areas of study involved Transcendental Meditation
(TM). While touting the many healthy benefits of meditation, it was
shown that TM reduced certain brain wave frequencies and increased
others in research subjects, which was assumed to imply stress
reduction. There has been much written, both pro and con regarding
these results and other effects of the technique and organization.
According to TM, slowing alpha activity during meditation indicates
deeper relaxation. This conclusion was challenged, however, by Arthur
Janov and his associates at the Primal Institute in Los Angeles.
Janov conducted his own studies after having some advanced Vedanta
monks come to his clinic for therapy after suffering nervous
breakdowns. Janov was of the opinion after seeing such types that
meditation was definitely "anti-primal", or dissociative of the body
and feelings.
His research showed that in neurotic meditators (i.e.,those who had
not done primal therapy) the results were similar to those produced
by the TM people, with reduced alpha and beta wave frequencies, but
that the wave amplitude was increased, which to him implied that an
element of deep repression still existed in the meditators.
In other words, the TM form of meditation they did only achieved
symptom suppression (pseudo-calmness) and not deep release or healing
of core repressed pain. The natural history of the nervous system
remained intact, and there was no integration between the reptilian,
limbic, and cortical levels of the brain, which when achieved Janov
saw as the sign of mental health and freedom from neurosis.
After undergoing successful advanced primalling in which his subjects
accessed early childhood pains and even birth traumas, in a
systematic and integrated fashion, the study results afterwards
showed reductions in both frequency and amplitude of the brain waves,
as well as vital signs, for the primal subjects.
