---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote :

dear Salyavin even though it frightens me to ask: exactly how do you define "proper doctor?"
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On 8/21/2014 3:02 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
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One that doesn't prescribe you untested snake oil or placebo's obviously. Someone with an actual medical training perhaps, who can spot health problems and actually do something about them rather than wave a hand over you while chanting in sanskrit.
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Non sequitur. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. It has already been established that many doctors cannot cure some conditions, regardless of medical training.
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Didn't we have this conversation last week?
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"Passive-aggressive behavior is the indirect expression of hostility, such as through procrastination, sarcasm, stubbornness, sullenness, or deliberate or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is (often explicitly) responsible."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior
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On Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:14 PM, salyavin808 <[email protected]> wrote:


---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

On 08/21/2014 10:09 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


Doesn't your Royal Family use homeopathy?
            Oh well, it must be true then. I suppose wearing a crown
            makes you immune from errors of reasoning.


        Well, I was kidding you, of course.

             Even Turq once disagreed with Curtis anti-homeopathic
            stance because he had actually found a homeopathic
            substance useful. There's something to the science even
if it twiddles the mind of a high school trained scientist.
            That's the point, there is nothing to the science. That's
            why we do science, to work out what's real from what
            isn't, there's nothing like blind testing to give the lie
            to dodgy claims. Like we did with astrology and all sorts
            of other nonsense. Check the periodic table posted by MJ
            earlier for details.

            :-D


        Problem is the naysayers are "often reviewing a movie without
        having seen it."  These ideas sound wacky to them until the
        "white coats" adopt it for their mainstream medicine (as has
        happened with some of ayurveda).

        =

        You actually can get homeopathy on the National Health in the
        UK but there is a campaign to stop it as using tax payers
        money to fund something you can demonstrate is ineffective
        when there are so many people with health problems that simply
        drinking water given to you by someone friendly won't cure,
the money should go to effective and tested treatments.
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        I would say that until something is tested it shouldn't be
        described as medicine (this happens here anyway) if ayurvedic
        treatments survive double blind tests then yes, they should be
        included in public health programmes. But as it is it's not a
        system of knowledge but a set of folk beliefs, some of which
        are known to be seriously dangerous. Testing is expensive
        though so I fall back on my trusty old maxim: try ayurveda
        until there is something wrong with you, then go see a proper
        doctor.


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            On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:59 AM, "Share Long
            sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"
            <[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


            Michael, are you being paid by Big Pharma?!


            On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:47 AM, "Michael Jackson
            mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
            <[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:


            What everyone on FFL needs on their wall

            
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