IF I remember correctly, Michael, the only person who was supportive of 
vaccines is someone who no longer posts here. OTOH, not everyone weighed in on 
that topic.



On Thursday, August 21, 2014 3:45 PM, "Michael Jackson [email protected] 
[FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 


  


FFL is a hell of a place - so many of you love to bash the medical trade, yet 
you enthusiastically gush over vaccines ignoring the fact that the greed and 
deception of the Big Pharma folks runs deeper if anything with their vaccines 
then with the drugs they make.


________________________________
 From: "Bhairitu [email protected] [FairfieldLife]" 
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
 


  
On 08/21/2014 12:14 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

  
>---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :
>
>
>On 08/21/2014 10:09 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>
>  
>>>
>>>>Doesn't your Royal Family use
                                homeopathy? 
>>>Oh well, it must be true then. I suppose wearing a crown makes you immune 
>>>from errors of reasoning.
>>Well, I was kidding you, of course.
>>
>> Even Turq once disagreed with Curtis anti-homeopathic stance because he had 
>>actually found a homeopathic substance useful. There's something to the 
>>science even if it twiddles the mind of a high school trained scientist. 
>>>That's the point, there is nothing to the science. That's why we do science, 
>>>to work out what's real from what isn't, there's nothing like blind testing 
>>>to give the lie to dodgy claims. Like we did with astrology and all sorts of 
>>>other nonsense. Check the periodic table posted by MJ earlier for details.
>>>:-D 
>>>>
>>Problem is the naysayers are "often reviewing a
                    movie without having
                    seen it."  These ideas sound wacky to them until the
                    "white coats"
                    adopt it for their mainstream medicine (as has
                    happened with some of
                    ayurveda).
>=
>>
>>You actually can get homeopathy on the National
                    Health in the UK but there is a campaign to stop it
                    as using tax payers money to fund something you can
                    demonstrate is ineffective when there are so many
                    people with health problems that simply drinking
                    water given to you by someone friendly won't cure,
                    the money should go to effective and tested
                    treatments. 
>=
>I would say that until something is tested it shouldn't be described as 
>medicine (this happens here anyway) if ayurvedic treatments survive double 
>blind tests then yes, they should be included in public health programmes. But 
>as it is it's not a system of knowledge but a set of folk beliefs, some of 
>which are known to be seriously dangerous. Testing is expensive though so I 
>fall back on my trusty old maxim: try ayurveda until there is something wrong 
>with you, then go see a proper doctor.
Sounds like  you've been brainwashed by Big Pharma.  Welcome to
    "Brave New World" which is just what Huxley feared (in spite of
    those who think he was suggesting it as a solution -- they seemed to
    have failed to read the opening of his "Brave New World Revisited."

I guess you think that most MD's are geniuses instead of often just
    kids of MDs who want to join the "family business" and make it
    through medical school with help from dad or mum's influence on the
    dean.  At least that is often the way it goes in the US.

It's all about money and Big Pharma is just the the Military
    Industrial Complex where lots of money is to be made at the cost of
    lives of the general public.  And BTW, some of Big Pharma's "wonder
    cures" have proven to be ineffective too if not downright dangerous
    (Vioxx for example).



>>
>=
>> 
>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:59 AM, "Share Long sharelong60@...
[FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>Michael,
are you being paid by Big Pharma?!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:47 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
[FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>What everyone on FFL needs on their wall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/10/handy-alternative-therapy-flowchart.html
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>           
>>>>>The
Reason
Stick:
A Handy Alternative Therapy Flowchart 
>>>>>Believe
it
or not, I don't really have a particular interest in alternative therapies, I 
just can't help picking at the scabs of alt-med credulity. 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>View on crispian-jago.blogspot... Preview by Yahoo 
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>



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