On 08/22/2014 12:12 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
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On 08/21/2014 12:14 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
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<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :
On 08/21/2014 10:09 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Doesn't your Royal Family use homeopathy?
Oh well, it must be true then. I suppose wearing a crown
makes you immune from errors of reasoning.
Well, I was kidding you, of course.
Even Turq once disagreed with Curtis anti-homeopathic
stance because he had actually found a homeopathic
substance useful. There's something to the science even
if it twiddles the mind of a high school trained scientist.
That's the point, there is nothing to the science.
That's why we do science, to work out what's real from
what isn't, there's nothing like blind testing to give
the lie to dodgy claims. Like we did with astrology and
all sorts of other nonsense. Check the periodic table
posted by MJ earlier for details.
:-D
Problem is the naysayers are "often reviewing a movie without
having seen it." These ideas sound wacky to them until the
"white coats" adopt it for their mainstream medicine (as has
happened with some of ayurveda).
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You actually can get homeopathy on the National Health in the
UK but there is a campaign to stop it as using tax payers
money to fund something you can demonstrate is ineffective
when there are so many people with health problems that
simply drinking water given to you by someone friendly won't
cure, the money should go to effective and tested treatments.
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I would say that until something is tested it shouldn't be
described as medicine (this happens here anyway) if ayurvedic
treatments survive double blind tests then yes, they should
be included in public health programmes. But as it is it's
not a system of knowledge but a set of folk beliefs, some of
which are known to be seriously dangerous. Testing is
expensive though so I fall back on my trusty old maxim: try
ayurveda until there is something wrong with you, then go see
a proper doctor.
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by Big Pharma.
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Nah, they just gave me a blue pill.
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Welcome to "Brave New World" which is just what Huxley feared (in
spite of those who think he was suggesting it as a solution --
they seemed to have failed to read the opening of his "Brave New
World Revisited."
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Do yourself a favour and drop the conspiracy theories when it
comes to your health.
No, I use the information gleaned from taking workshops in alternative
medicine. I used alternative medicine since 1972. You do know you are
arguing against people who have actually taken courses in it? A lot of
it is based on biochemistry or what many rich kid medical students seem
to have difficulty with. :-D
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I guess you think that most MD's are geniuses instead of often
just kids of MDs who want to join the "family business" and make
it through medical school with help from dad or mum's influence on
the dean. At least that is often the way it goes in the US.
It's all about money and Big Pharma is just the the Military
Industrial Complex where lots of money is to be made at the cost
of lives of the general public. And BTW, some of Big Pharma's
"wonder cures" have proven to be ineffective too if not downright
dangerous (Vioxx for example).
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The wonder of science is that it is inherently fallible and is
improving all the time. The trouble with drug companies is the
amount it costs to research and test new drugs, hence corruption
creeps in. To throw out the whole thing because of a few cock-ups
is throwing an almighty baby out with the bath water.
Yeah, trying to figure out what the active ingredient in that herb
people take to cure their ills does cost some research money. Why not
just take the real thing instead?
A return to mediaeval mortality rates like we'd see if "natural"
medicine took its crown back would soon wipe the smug smiles off
the faces of the anti-pharma crowd.
It's not for profit medicine that reduced mortality rates, it's
education of the public. Much of it is avoiding things that people
didn't know about way back when.
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On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:59 AM, "Share Long
sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]"
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<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Michael, are you being paid by Big Pharma?!
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:47 AM, "Michael Jackson
mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
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<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
What everyone on FFL needs on their wall
http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/10/handy-alternative-therapy-flowchart.html
The Reason Stick: A Handy Alternative Therapy Flowchart
<http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/10/handy-alternative-therapy-flowchart.html>
Believe it or not, I don't really have a particular
interest in alternative therapies, I just can't help
picking at the scabs of alt-med credulity.
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