Michael, good alliteration. And I'll see your y'all and raise you one!


On Monday, August 25, 2014 8:26 AM, "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


  
He knows y'all need a heap more hep than I do.



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 From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Alternative Therapy
 


  
Salyavin, here's where I find you to be very unscientific: you're warning me 
and Steve about the dangers of silver. And yet you don't warn Michael who also 
uses it! What gives? 



On Monday, August 25, 2014 12:30 AM, salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> 
wrote:
 


  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :


What I find strange is that Salyavin seems intent on completely discounting my 
experience with it, chalking it up to a placebo effect, because of things he's 
come up with on the internet.
It doesn't bother me.  It just seems a symptom of a closed mind.

If you misunderstand everything I say to this sort of extent I can only assume 
that you aren't paying attention to my posts or not following the links. The 
fact that something is a placebo DOES NOT mean that it doesn't work, just that 
the active ingredient isn't the one you think it is.

I suffer with asthma, I was at my doctors once getting a check up and I noticed 
that he'd left a cupboard open, inside were asthma inhalers with the words 
"Placebo inhaler" on the box. I remarked that maybe I shouldn't be seeing those 
and he just shrugged and said it doesn't matter as they'll still work.

But if you can manage the challenge do look at the colloidal silver wiki page 
as there is something about adverse effects that you may want to know - maybe 
Share will find the information that her intuitive cures may not be as safe as 
she supposes quite interesting....


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :


Much as I love Sal's posts this is one I don't agree on - I use colloidal 
silver from time to time and placebo or not, it is good stuff. 



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 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]
Alternative Therapy



 
I get the feeling that you are not joking.  That for whatever reason, you are 
chalking this up to a placebo effect?
I mean, I've had this condition for twenty years.  I had really gotten used to 
it.  I mentioned it in passing on FFL.  Ann offered to send me this 1 oz. 
container of colloidal silver .  It arrived, I started putting it on, and one 
day later the dead skin starts flaking off.  I continue to apply a small dab 
twice a day, and the dry skin stays away, but the area remains red.

I start to get lazy, thinking that I don't really mind the red area, just happy 
that the dry skin hasn't come back, but still putting the ointment on, whenever 
I would remember, maybe a couple times a week.

Then, one day I notice that even the red spot was gone.

And according to you, it is a placebo effect?

I guess, for whatever reason,
this incident, as I've described it, upends some belief system you have.

Rather strange I'd say.  

BTW, I just looked at the little container.  It is two thirds full.  

All this from maybe 1/3 oz.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :


Think it was the placebo effect that took care of the psoriasis?  Damn, that 
power of attention thing must be better than I thought.

The placebo effect has nothing to do with your conscious mind or
attention.

Bot don't take it from me:

Placebo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
      Placebo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
A placebo (/pləˈsiboʊ/ plə-SEE-boh; Latin placēbō, "I shall please"[2]
from placeō, "I please")[3][4] is a simulated or otherwise medically inef...  
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Whatever it was/is, or shall be, the psoriasis is gone.

Now, from a scientific pov, I can't say with absolute certainty that it was the 
colloidal silver that was responsible, but the gradual improvement, and 
eventual elimination of the psoriasis, did coincide exactly with the 
application of the colloidal silver.  (-:

It's a placebo:


"Colloidal silver (a colloid consisting of silver particles suspended in 
liquid) and formulations containing silver salts were used by physicians in the 
early 20th century, but their use was largely discontinued in the 1940s 
following the development of safer and effective modern antibiotics.[9][10] 
Since the 1990s, colloidal silver has again been marketed as an alternative 
medicine, often with extensive "cure-all" claims. Colloidal silver products 
remain available in many countries as dietary supplements and homeopathic 
remedies, although they are not effective in treating any known condition and 
carry the risk of both permanent cosmetic side effects such as argyria and more 
serious ones such as allergic reactions, and interactions with prescription 
medications"

Medical uses of silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
   Medical uses of silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
The medical uses of silver include its incorporation into wound dressings, 
creams, and as an antibiotic coating on medical devices. While wound dressings 
containing silver sulfadiazine or silver nanomaterials may be used on external 
infections,[1][2][3] there is
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