--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "bmorry2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do some research on "partial birth abortion."
> > > > 
> > > > This will help you to decide what a baby looks like....in 
case 
> you 
> > > > are not sure.
> > > > 
> > > > P.S.  In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, 
> > > > menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and 
> > > > spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal 
> > > > abortion.  Again, refer to the literature on partial birth 
> abortion.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous 
posts? 
> Or
> > > are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you 
> opposed to
> > > both but playing bait and switch / strawman games?
> > > 
> > > If "violently induced" is your criteria for opposing abortion, 
> then
> > > you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after 
pill 
> and
> > > the oral abortion pill.
> > >
> > 
> > ========
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are 
abortions 
> in
> > the first trimester, particulary by second month, "violent" in 
> nature.
> > Is "violent induction" a reasonable and fair way to describe such
> > early term abortions?
> >
> 
> ****
> I think abortion is a violent act also when done in the early 
stages. 
> But mild compared to other sorts of violence that is abundant in 
> human societies. To be born as an unwanted child to parents who are 
> not capable or fully willing of  taking proper care of their off-
> spring is the recipe for making violently acting individuals. I am 
> much more concerned about this more brutal violence in society and 
> how to diminish it. 
> 
> I respect every woman's right to determine if she wants to have a 
> child or not. Abundant societal support for young mothers or 
families 
> would help to enhance the desire to raise an unexpected child.
> 
> In societies where women are in low position and where they are 
> valued only as mothers, children are not wanted as themselves, but 
as 
> a means to get appreciation and someone to take care of you. Good 
> education and free abortion for women are good medicines in those 
> circumstances.
> 
> Irmeli
>

Abortion is a very LOUSY form of birth control.





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