When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus,
In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, and tearing 
it from the womb.
Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth control, can 
so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death.
Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, emotional and 
spiritual...
Whether or not the government approves or disapproves of the 
procedure, it will still go on.
There are lot's of things the government disapproves of, and that 
doesen't seem to prevent people from doing as they wish.

-- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "bmorry2000" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do some research on "partial birth abortion."
> > > > 
> > > > This will help you to decide what a baby looks like....in 
case 
> you 
> > > > are not sure.
> > > > 
> > > > P.S.  In response to others: naturally ejaculated sperm, 
> > > > menstruation (where an unfertilize egg is discarded), and 
> > > > spontaneous miscarriage are not violently induced--like legal 
> > > > abortion.  Again, refer to the literature on partial birth 
> abortion.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > So are you against all abortion -- as implied in previous 
posts? 
> Or
> > > are you only opposed to partial-birth abortions? Or are you 
> opposed to
> > > both but playing bait and switch / strawman games?
> > > 
> > > If "violently induced" is your criteria for opposing abortion, 
> then
> > > you would appear to approve of the use of the morning after 
pill 
> and
> > > the oral abortion pill.
> > >
> > 
> > ========
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone clarify with direct or spousal experience: Are 
abortions 
> in
> > the first trimester, particulary by second month, "violent" in 
> nature.
> > Is "violent induction" a reasonable and fair way to describe such
> > early term abortions?
> >
> 
> ****
> I think abortion is a violent act also when done in the early 
stages. 
> But mild compared to other sorts of violence that is abundant in 
> human societies. To be born as an unwanted child to parents who are 
> not capable or fully willing of  taking proper care of their off-
> spring is the recipe for making violently acting individuals. I am 
> much more concerned about this more brutal violence in society and 
> how to diminish it. 
> 
> I respect every woman's right to determine if she wants to have a 
> child or not. Abundant societal support for young mothers or 
families 
> would help to enhance the desire to raise an unexpected child.
> 
> In societies where women are in low position and where they are 
> valued only as mothers, children are not wanted as themselves, but 
as 
> a means to get appreciation and someone to take care of you. Good 
> education and free abortion for women are good medicines in those 
> circumstances.
> 
> Irmeli
>






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