--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > When the newly fertilized egg, attaches to the uterus,
> > > > > In order to be aborted, the procedure requires, sucking, 
and 
> > > > > tearing it from the womb.
> > > > > Many times, woman who use abortion, as a means to birth 
> > control, 
> > > > > can so damage their wombs, that they can bleed to death.
> > > > 
> > > > Only if they're forced to do it themselves with a
> > > > coat hanger, or have some quack do it on a kitchen
> > > > table because safe medical abortion isn't available.
> > > > 
> > > > First-trimester abortion is *significantly* safer,
> > > > if done in a medical facility by a competent
> > > > physician, than bringing the fetus to term and
> > > > giving birth--especially for younger women.
> > > > 
> > > > > Abortion is violent, on all levels; physical, mental, 
> emotional 
> > > and 
> > > > > spiritual...
> > > > 
> > > > So is *birth*, for pete's sake.
> > > 
> > > Virtually everything in life has a "violent" component, Judy.
> > > 
> > > Shiva the destroyer is everywhere: when the red petals of the 
> rose 
> > > bloom the bud covering has to be "violently" extinguished to 
> make 
> > > room for the beautiful petals.
> > > 
> > > So it is disingenious of you to cite birth as a "violent" act.  
> If 
> > > birth is "violent" then virtually everything in the universe 
is, 
> > > too.
> > 
> > My point, of course, is that abortion is no *more*
> > violent than birth,
> 
> Oh, really?
> 
> Uh, gee, in one instance the result is the snuffing out of a 
> POTENTIAL human life (a "god" who is recreated in man's image with 
> every human birth); and, in the other instance a human life results.
> 
> Yeah, very similar.

And now you're disingenuously conflating the outcome
with the process.

As to a human life being a recreation of god, it's a pretty
lame god who couldn't salvage his/her image from a piece
of unwanted tissue and put it in a piece of tissue that
would be treasured.


 
> > or than late miscarriage, for
> > that matter.
> > 
> > It's disingenuous of you to pretend you missed that
> > point.
> >
>






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