Well it's always a good day when I learn something new, in this case the
Tibetan "sky burial."Also thought it was a pretty good tantric joke about Rick
not having to spring for a funeral.
On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:07 AM, "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that.
He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a
couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to
"post the most." Or that
other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and
egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other
mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin.
IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures
to perform a Tibetan "sky burial," so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral.
:-)
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From: "jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? ("Nice to hear
from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened")
Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group?
This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the
forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this
muck.
From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who
thinks this whole deal is the real deal.
I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the
one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations
with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on
and I hope Jerry is willing to answer.
--- <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt
he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance
than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it.
It goes without saying that I see another option to the "either/or" I laid out
below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two
options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for "both/and" -- Maharishi was WRONG
about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened.
--- <Danfriedman2002@...> wrote :
Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since
you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it.
This Post counts.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you
weren't enlightened"
OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be
able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised
that it hasn't happened before now.
The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe
that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was
enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or
how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if
Maharishi was really enlightened.
In being open to such a promised message
possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was
NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an
enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a
message. "The drop has returned to the ocean." That means there ain't no drop
(or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just
ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including
the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they
don't sign them, "Maharishi."
I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they
were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and
saying, "No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there
is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC."
And *every time* someone
did this, Maharishi would "correct" them and say,
"No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an
enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body
falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game
over, man." OK, he didn't say "Game over, man," but he did pretty much say all
the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know.
And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the
art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the
same speech many times -- "There is no individuality after an enlightened
person dies, and no possibility of one existing." So if Jerry has actually come
to believe that "messages" from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does
that imply?
Well, as far as I can
tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that
this George
Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would
have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he
had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct,
but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened.
If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to resolve
this WTF quandary for me.
I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around
Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or Lawson) not knowing what
Maharishi's teachings were about the impossibility of individuality after death
in CC. But Jerry? I've heard him parrot those teachings, and in that "I *know*
the Truth so you *really* should believe me" tone of voice he used to use in
lectures.
So if he is willing to entertain even the
*possibility* that these "messages" really come from a now-dead Maharishi who
still has individuality, what does that imply about what he (Jerry) now
believes? Was the teaching wrong, or was it right, and Maharishi just never
enlightened?
