On 9/12/2014 10:51 AM, feste37 wrote:
Speak for yourself, Edg. You say, "We were hustlers with shiny shoes,
a $200 suit and a $200 car. We were fucking chumps." But what you
actually mean is "I was a hustler with shiny shoes, a $200 suit and a
$200 car. I was a fucking chump."
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He was addressing the important issues.
It was his karma to get on these programs - in reality, nobody did
anything for him or to him - it was all due to his good or bad deeds
performed by him in the past. But, it was not any personality,
technique, organization or program that brought him his good or bad
fortune - he earned it.
If it had not been the Mahesh Yogi that got his attention, it would
probably have been some other program. The TM did not provide him the
ability to transcend, or not - TM is not caused by anything - THAT is
the uncaused cause.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Maharishi never gave a damn about us ever understanding "a philosophy
made necessary" if the concept "transcendental" is the basis of it.
Except for learning puja and checking notes, we never had "general
philosophy 101" classes, never had exams, never had sub-leaders who
could lead a discussion about philosophy, never were encouraged to
study the Gita or other scriptures, never had any "must memorize"
commands, etc. We were forbidden to read any other spiritual books.
Yeah, Maharishi taught us by answering the mike-questions, but that
was always informal and there was no "lesson plan" for the "students."
In short we were put out into the public wilds completely unable to
defend TM with concepts and logic.....except such as we were able to
individually pony up when the moment came that someone asked a deeper
question.
We were JOKES, and we didn't know it, but because most of our
audiences were as un-scholarly as we were, so we could bullshit to the
max. Any PhD in philosophy candidate could have us tied up in knots
and sweating buckets.
Oh, we were told we were Totakacharya types.....the nice folks who
were stupid but who would do great works none-the-less. We swallowed
that shit like it was caviar.
So don't go pushing Chapter 7 on me -- it's just window dressing in a
billion dollar scam.
I read the first six chapters and wore out three copies of the book
underlining and adding comments and questions in the margins. After I
got into Advaita, I read MMY's Gita one last time and I WAS APPALLED
at the lack of consistency of how key concepts were used.
Go ahead, try to find out what Maharishi would say are the defining
DIFFERENCES "being, consciousness, isness, amness, transcendent,
awareness, witness, soul, etc." I'll wait. No one....I repeat, NO
ONE came off a TM teachers' training course being able to define these
words without paradox or treating most of them as if they were
synonyms of each other. We were hustlers with shiny shoes, a $200
suit and a $200 car.
We were fucking chumps.
