What a crock of nonsense. What you ignore and what TM has never been able to
mask is the fact that TM is touted as being a practice that on all levels
imaginable MAKES YOU STRONGER, no weaker. But you claiming that the TM'ers have
to creep around telling each other the "sweet truth" is indicative that TM
makes you weaker - or at least it would appear so since in addition to TM, one
needs all sorts of Movement related nostrums to make you safe, healthy and so
on. What a big load of baloney.
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From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: When one starts TM, cruder values are
replaced by finer values, speech is less sharp
Well
yes, TM cultivates an interior quietness that can be (could be) a
basis for greater empathy. But empathetic and virtuous action is
mostly cultural, learned and cultivated by good up-bringing. There
can be a virtue there around meditators actively protecting other
people's subtle spiritual systems. That empathy (sweet truth etc. hopefully out
of an empathetic concern for others' subtle system finer values)
protecting other people's subtle systems could come from the group
and meditating while by contrast for some poorly raised ignorant
brutes or the spiritually clueless without transcendent meditating, they know
not what they are doing..
Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck
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Though
quite evidently it seems just meditating is different practically
than development of the spiritual 'heart' center [chakra] as a
spiritual center. That quite evidently is different than the
cultivation which transcending alone can bring to the mind and
possibly to upper registers of the subtle system. Is likely proly
why folks could often observe the TM community is without 'heart'.
That kind of comment about TM being without heart certainly goes back
to 1970 when this quote was made. Transcending simply itself
evidently as a practice is not necessarily directly about cultivating
the heart as a spiritual center. More work to do while you are
here.. that adjunct of heart work becomes part of a back-story to
where the meditating community has continued on towards with its
spiritual cultivation. -Buck
Yes, it is interesting to
read this particular quote again now with the perspective of time and
see where these cultural norms of TM-ishness came from. This was
quite a formative quote at the time for what became permissible. It
reads all over the place and ambiguous now but it was influential
legacy. -Buck
netineti108 writes:
Have
you followed the dialogue in this group over the years that
developed from TM'ers ?
Forwarded from: David Hooper <davehoopermpp@...>
9/21/14-Maharishi: When one starts TM, cruder values are replaced by finer
values, speech is less sharp
"…Children
do say, 'Now, Mummy today you haven't meditated.' When they find a
little roughness [in the mother], they say, 'No, you should meditate.'
Children remind mothers to meditate. [This is] the effect of
Transcendental Meditation, the children know that when Mummy has
meditated she doesn't mind their mischief so much. Their crude behavior
is overlooked, and they're all loved more and more and more. It's
recognized by the children that right from the moment one starts to
meditate, cruder values begin to be replaced by finer values, and this
is what is called virtue -- finer values of life, more delicate values
of life, more 'yes' and less 'no's,' more acceptance, less rejection,
more tolerance, less sharpness. Otherwise, one is sharp here and sharp here.
These
sharp remarks even though true they don't help very much. Many people
say, 'I am truthful and that's why people dislike me because I say
something to their face.' Truth is not characterized by whips. If you
speak truth, fine, the truth is there, but it should have some sweetness
to it.
Manu, the first lawgiver to the human race, said about speech:
'Satyāṁ brūyāt priyaṁ brūyāt na brūyāt satyam apriyam'
Speak the truth, speak that which is sweet, don't speak the truth which is not
sweet.
Not
that you can take liberty with the truth and massacre the whole field
of behavior. Speak the simple, natural truth which is supporting life,
which is nourishing life. Truth is always life-supporting if it is
really truth, but it must come from a melted heart and not from a very
unconcerned mind. No.
So the moment TM begins, [there is] culture of the heart and culture of the
mind,....."
~Maharishi~
~Humboldt State University -- August 12, 1970 -- Audiotape~
* * * * * * *
1. TM Media Alert (USA):"Relieving the World’s Stress with Transcendental
Meditation" -- zeitgeistminds.com-- Bob Roth (video)/September 2014
https://www.zeitgeistminds.com/talk/6125816425480192/relieving-the-worlds-stress-with-transcendental-meditation-bob-roth
2. TM Media Alert (USA):"Worth the Investment" -- About.com/Holistic Healing--
Venusji/September 19, 2014
http://healing.about.com/u/sty/transcendentalmeditation/transcendental-meditation-testimonials/Worth-the-Investment.htm
Jai Guru Dev
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