---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Right, wr to the latest debate about the man not eating for 70 years.
If it is a fraud, as it appears it is, by the lack of transparency of
those who put it out there, then great. Salyavin was right. No problem.
It is more the attitude you describe below.
Sal's posting "that that the truth will set you free, but first will
piss you off", applies as much to him as he thinks it does to
everyone else, or at least me.
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On 9/24/2014 7:17 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
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Um, obviously. But I'm already free can't you see?
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If you were free you could levitate and jump over tall buildings. We are
either free or we are bound. If free there would be no need for a yoga;
if bound, by what means can we free ourselves? According to Harris, we
are all bound by karma - the law of causality - everything happens for a
reason and there are no chance events.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
The world is as we are. Anyone dismissing unexplained phenomena out of
hand, is simply trying to limit their options, and put some mental
boundaries in place. Oftentimes this is achieved by picking an obvious
fraud, and using this to bolster the boundary. Feeling as if we know
very little, scares some people, and makes them feel as if they are
out of control. Those on here spinning pages of words about the
unscientific nature, and therefore falseness, of anything without a
scientific explanation, are simply afraid, masking fear with anger, or
arrogance. It happens a lot. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Thanks Jim, I liked that.
I mean you seem to get this pounding of the shoe on the podium, "This
is what science says is possible, and that's that!" Jeez, lighten up dude.
My wife worked at IBM for 13 years. They have highly paid people
whose job it is to just think about things.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
I agree, Steve. By limiting our known world, to that which science has
vetted, inflicts a bias, of materialism, on our thinking, and our
culture. One reason I don't care for a lot of science fiction, is that
the assumption begins with science, and is imagined, from there. So
limiting.
I see the world more like walking through an art gallery. How many
perspectives, are there expressed, in an art gallery? And yet, science
would describe it in dry terms, perhaps as a building, housing a
collection of objects, representing other objects. Cold, rational and
absolutely true. But, missing everything.
I enjoy science, especially engineering; civil, architectural, and
electronic, but to say that something cannot exist, until science says
it can, is such a small thought, and far, far from reality, as it is
presented.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Right, I think so Share.
What I find bothersome, is the arrogant attitude, that science is the
final word on such things, knowing of course that science is updated
on a daily basis.
And then, when something heretofore considered impossible is
explained, then the reply is, "Of course, it just needed a proper
explanation, as I said"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Steve, I like what you're saying here which is that we don't yet know
all the laws governing gravity. And I think this is a very scientific
attitude. I bet we don't know all the laws about anything yet!
Including how human bodies obtain energy from their surroundings.
Which kind of makes the future fascinating to consider (-:
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:18 AM, "steve.sundur@...
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Given that there are plenty of ways he could be cheating I know where
I'm going to put my money.
Sure, what interested me was that the environment seemed to be
controlled. I suppose it could be a case of deception, but I haven't
looked into it to see if there are accusations of that sort. And of
course, that can be a somewhat an easy out. "It seems impossible, so
there must be some deception going on"
The below isn't one of them I'm afraid as there is nothing unusual or
contrary about it other than it appears counter to our expectations
drawn from the sort of things we usually run into. Supercooled helium
isn't a day-to-day occurrence and it isn't defeating gravity in any
way. Nor has anything else anyone has ever come across, apart from
anecdotally and what are we to make of that?
Well, that is what I am saying. Right now, the relationship between
body and akasha and the lightness of cotton fiber could not result in
levitation because it would appear to violate the laws of gravity.
But if somehow, someone levitated by utilizing that formula, then we
suddenly modify our understanding of how gravity would work in that
situation.
