On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:25 PM, authfriend wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2005, at 10:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>>> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LB, your last post in this thread was truncated, so I
>>>> couldn't include it, but I wanted to compliment you on
>>>> your observations. As you note, science is, at its
>>>> best, an international, public discourse. I can
>>>> understand MIU's reluctance to hand over the raw data
>>>> for reasons that have nothing to do with this
>>>> discourse. All movement research is for one purpose
>>>> only: to promote the teaching of TM/TM-Siddhis. It's
>>>> for PR only. Those in charge, MMY, aren't interested
>>>> in developing a coherent theory of the field effects
>>>> of consciousness. They just want to sell TM. The MIU
>>>> researchers won't hand over the raw data because the
>>>> ME is very weak, almost noise, not pattern. It can
>>>> easily be shown not to exist using alternative, and
>>>> more traditional, statistical methods used in this
>>>> type of research.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You may be correct, but your evidence of this is...?
>>
>> Wake Up and smell the Raja's Cup. It's been in front of us all the
>> time.
>>
>> How could we miss it?
>
> And if Vaj says there's been evidence in front of
> us all the time, by golly, it must be true.
>
> Say, Vaj, when are you going to get around to giving
> us the URLs of all those Web sites you said there were
> that link "Do nothing and accomplish everything" to
> get-rich-quick schemes?

Right after you deposit the 175 dollars an hour research fee into my  
PayPay account. A two hour retainer should be sufficient.

Really, anyone who spent time in the movement and had NOT come across  
people trying to hatch get-rich-quick schemes, just hasn't been around.

I can't tell you how many schemes and dreams I saw Gary Osterlund and  
Jack Normand try to hatch. Jack even started a course on it and got  
us to attend his seminar. He thought he was enlightened at the time.

And they were convinced that enlightenment and wealth went hand in hand.



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