--- In [email protected], wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > >MMY's
> > > biggest mistake was, is, and always will be, the Siddhi's 
program!
> > >
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" wrote:
> > >
> > 
> > Unless you happen to find the Siddhis program of personal use, of
> > course...
> > 
> > Yeah, on my siddhi course w/MMY at the end there was this 
> clamouring 
> > for people to receive advanced TM techniques from MMY before they 
> > went home.  He laughed derisively at this and said, "i have just 
> > given you the key to the universe and you want advanced 
techniques?"
> > 
> > On that course he gave these great lectures about the patanjali 
> Yoga 
> > Sutras and the siddhis.  Really great understanding about how you 
> do 
> > the siddhis in form.  In the sequence of things i am glad he came 
> > along with this back then.  
> > You can use the form of Patanjali to all kinds of good end with 
any 
> > of the maha vedic mantras or just simple spiritual practice.   
The 
> > same kind of patanjalaic description for how you can meditate is 
> > taught with Karunamayi also.  It is not like Patanjali is 
> tradmarked 
> > or MMY taught anything new.  He definitely packaged it.  
> > 
> > As for the long decline, it was very much in his hands as he 
> > dismantled the teaching organization back in 1977 that had become 
> so 
> > effective to that point.  He (MMY) made the decision to supplant 
> the 
> > whole thing with the chaos of the returning vedic atoms from 
those 
> > early TM-siddhi 'governor training' courses (mid & late 70's).  
It 
> > was a monumental decision which was very human and all his.  I 
was 
> > there and watched him do it.  It was pretty clearly a whim that 
was 
> > a bad administrative choice of his.  Yes, he traded the old TMorg 
> as 
> > a teaching org. for a series of cash cows of what then became the 
> > intervening years of the TMorg.  From then it really became about 
> > real estate and profit-centers for him.  The great teacher?
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,  -Doug
> 
>  
>  Seems right to me, I don't question his intentions, just his 
> administrative ability. BTW, I doubt most Siddhas do samyama from 
the 
> level of the transcendent, far from it! IMHO. Billyg.
>

ANd this is an issue because...?






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