Fortunately for us, there is actual video of god creating the universe. It's the first trick, the one with the Rubik's cube. Don't ask who the kids are. That just complicates things, like asking who Adam knocked up to create the human race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06O46DjlvzQ From: salyavin808 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Salyavin, ok, how are you with sound waves traveling through space and air? What do you think is the source of creation? Sound waves won't travel through space. Let's be clear, god couldn't be the source of creation as he would have had to exist before it. Therefore he wasn't the beginning. So it's no explanation because unless you account for the existence of god you are just pushing the required start time further back. It's all just a way of saying it was magic. But what we know from magic tricks here is that someone must have thought of it and knows how it works, and the only way we know of for the sort of required complexity for magic tricks to arise is through evolution, and if god evolved then he might as well not have existed as we don't need him as an explanation anymore because the universe must just have been existing before the bit we live in did and his bit had evolved like our bit with him in it. An infinite regress. So our bit might just as well be considered the first bit because the initial conditions would be the same and you still won't have explained where the bit he lived in came from. God is not an answer, it's a way of saying that you don't know what question to ask and would rather not think about it. But that's OK, it's the human default mode when confronted with the inexplicable. Maybe we won't ever be able to be absolutely certain about how the universe started, but like all complex things it will turn out to have a simple explanation. They always do. Some sort of wobbly quantum flux thing probably. From: salyavin808 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote : Salyavin, this brought to mind Marshall McLuhan's The Medium Is the Message. And the image of an ocean wave traveling through the ocean water. Maybe like that, sound travels through the medium of space or silence. I think what John meant by "start of creation" was the beginning rather than the source. Sound travels through silence. Interesting... Something before creation. Even more interesting... I'm sure there's an answer. And I'm also sure this isn't it. But your theory is fun too (-:It's a good book, I haven't read it since I was 17 but it stuck in the mind better than 90% of the bible did. It's got strong characters, a good moral message, mystic visions, a battle between good and evil. All the things a religious text could ask for! And if you can't be bothered to wade through its 900 pages there's a movie in production even as we type. From: salyavin808 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Hebrew Language is The DNA of Creation ---In [email protected], <jr_esq@...> wrote : The lecture was very interesting. The concept of sound as the start of creation is similar to the Ved, which MMY explains is the constitution of the universe. How can you have both? And what is sound without a medium for it to travel in, and if there was a medium for it to travel in then it isn't the source of creation. That's the trouble with these religious types, they only look as far into something as to have their prejudices confirmed. 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