Haven't been following this thread, so my apologies if what I have 
to say is redundant.

Dr. David Simon is the doctor/former-TM governor who invited Dr. 
Chopra to La Jolla and who has worked with him in partnership since. 
Around 1994 or 1995, David Simon told a friend the following: When 
Dr. Chopra first came out to California, he and Dr. Simon were 
referring their clients to the tmo to learn TM. But clients would 
come back complaining about the high price (what was it, about $1000 
back then?) So then Dr. Chopra and Dr. Simon would advise them that 
there were TM teachers in the area willing to teach TM for less and 
give them names. After awhile, they received a letter from tmo 
national saying that they were circumventing the tmo and going 
against mmy's wishes, and perhaps, after all, it was a good thing 
that Dr. Chopra had severed relations with the tmo and mmy, and 
would they please stop recommending to people to go to TM teachers 
who were not working through the tmo and not charging the full 
price. It was after this that the two doctors decided to develop 
their own meditation so as to fully sever the relationship to the 
tmo. I believe that what they taught involved the use of a mantra 
chosen from a list of 108 mantras based on nakshatras. They called 
what they were teaching "Primordial Sound". This was an interesting 
coincidence, considering that Dr. Chopra was teaching a "Primordial 
Sound" technique when he was working under the auspices of the tmo. 
On being asked about this coincidence of technique name, Dr. Simon 
responded that nothing that Dr. Chopra was teaching since leaving 
the tmo had come from Maharishi. Whether or not that was true, it 
certainly identifies how Dr. Simon, and probably Dr. Chopra felt 
about the situation. Maybe it is not so coincidental that mmy never 
tried to resurrect the primorial sound, bliss technique or 
psychophysiological techniques that Dr. Chopra was teaching through 
MAPI. Maybe Dr. Chopra had more "ownership" or "authorship" of them 
than mmy did in some way. But, in any case, there were not 108 
primordial sounds when they were being taught through MAPI. So 
something had changed, if not the name.

anon

--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > What I find interesting about Chopra is that when he left the 
> Movement 
> > > he went down on record as saying: No, I don't want to compete 
> with 
> > > Maharishi and I'm not interested in teaching meditation.
> > > 
> > > Had he stuck to that, I would have had a lot of respect for 
the 
> guy.
> > 
> > Chopra's version is that he and MMY agreed he should work more
> > independently due to too much infighting coming from the inner
> > circlers against chopra plus Chopra would have more credibility
> > promoting ayurved if he was not directly employed and associated 
> with
> > the tmo.  Then a week later, bevan sends out the message to all
> > centers declaring chopra persona non grata within the tmo and
> > generally promoting all the spin and rumors against him.  Chopra
> > couldn't get MMY to rein in the negative campaigning so he felt 
> had no
> > responsibility to promote tmo's programs.
> >
> 
> I can certainly empathize with Chopra vis a vis his own programs 
and 
> whether or not the Movement -- and the Upper Snots -- acted like 
> pricks with him, which they probably did.  And I have no problem 
> with Chopra promoting, selling and making oodles of cash off of 
> those programs.
> 
> I do have a problem with him creating and then selling his own 
brand 
> of TM which from all appearances he has done, particularly since I 
> have seen a quote from him at the time he left the movement that 
he 
> had no interest in doing so.  I wish I could find the quote and 
> reproduce it here.
>







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