On 12/16/2014 02:56 PM, [email protected] [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Re Duveyoung: Nisargadatta's so "out of the person business" and, too,
so clear that perfect nothingness is sentient and eternal, that I
truly do not think he cared if the soul has metaphysical staying
power. It was all illusion to him.
He was a heavy smoker till his dying day. When asked about his habit
he said that his body had become addicted to the drug and it was too
much trouble to stop smoking. Better just to let the body die as only
the Self is important. I can't imagine a statement more out of tune
with contemporary new-age types who are obsessed with detoxifying the
body!
But it also sez that his smoking was no barrier to enlightenment.
Neither is eating meat for that matter. My tantra teacher smoked though
quit around 2005 and put on weight as a result. The extra weight
probably lead to his heart condition which eventually killed him. No,
he didn't know much about ayurveda.
Re salyavin808: The problem here is the metaphors taking themselves
too seriously. You probably think that's ducking the question but it's
just avoiding getting pulled into the endless cycle of ever more
mysterious sophistry. We won't work it out how minds work from the
inside, at least no one ever has, so it's probably be a good idea to
hang five and work out how it's all actually put together and start
again from there.
Yeah, but . . . it's the "actually put together" bit that is soaked in
metaphysical assumptions. The type of person who tells us he's a
hard-nosed, down-to-earth, "just the facts ma'am" type is saying that
*the real world* must conform to his IDEAL view that the world is
no-nonsense sensible.
I agree about not taking metaphors too literally. We can't escape from
the language trap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJPa45uO0-A
