Re "The extra weight probably lead to his heart condition which eventually 
killed him.":
 

 Something I've noticed (and was predictable and predicted) is that the 
anti-smoking backlash and indoor smoking bans have at least some responsibility 
for the scary increase in obesity levels in the West. All the catwalk models 
you see smoke!
 

 Yes, smoking is no barrier to enlightenment - David Lynch chain smokes and 
he's enlight . . . Oh, hang on a minute.
 

---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :

 On 12/16/2014 02:56 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Re Duveyoung: Nisargadatta's so "out of the person business" and, too, so 
clear that perfect nothingness is sentient and eternal, that I truly do not 
think he cared if the soul has metaphysical staying power. It was all illusion 
to him.

 

 He was a heavy smoker till his dying day. When asked about his habit he said 
that his body had become addicted to the drug and it was too much trouble to 
stop smoking. Better just to let the body die as only the Self is important. I 
can't imagine a statement more out of tune with contemporary new-age types who 
are obsessed with detoxifying the body!

 
 But it also sez that his smoking was no barrier to enlightenment.  Neither is 
eating meat for that matter.  My tantra teacher smoked though quit around 2005 
and put on weight as a result.  The extra weight probably lead to his heart 
condition which eventually killed him.  No, he didn't know much about ayurveda.
 
 

 Re salyavin808: The problem here is the metaphors taking themselves too 
seriously. You probably think that's ducking the question but it's just 
avoiding getting pulled into the endless cycle of ever more mysterious 
sophistry. We won't work it out how minds work from the inside, at least no one 
ever has, so it's probably be a good idea to hang five and work out how it's 
all actually put together and start again from there.

 

 Yeah, but . . . it's the "actually put together" bit that is soaked in 
metaphysical assumptions. The type of person who tells us he's a hard-nosed, 
down-to-earth, "just the facts ma'am" type is saying that *the real world* must 
conform to his IDEAL view that the world is no-nonsense sensible. 
 I agree about not taking metaphors too literally. We can't escape from the 
language trap. 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJPa45uO0-A 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJPa45uO0-A

 




 
 

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