---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :

 I recall back in the day having a one-on-one discussion with the local TM 
teacher for Newcastle upon Tyne (he was a Yank and an excellent and committed 
teacher) when he suddenly leaned forward and said to me quietly: "Have you ever 
transcended?". It was an embarrassing moment. It felt such an intimate 
question, as though he'd asked me if I was still a virgin. I think that those 
who had transcended rather preened themselves and looked down on those who 
hadn't yet crossed the threshold. 

 

 (Funnily enough, I myself had moments of "boundlessness" during the waking 
state before I ever had such an experience during a TM session itself. Is that 
a rarity?)
 

 Not with me. And other people I know have described similar events when I was 
explaining TM to them, usually when they were just sitting around and there was 
nothing on TV they'd get that sinking and rising feeling sense of inner depth. 
Unmistakeable. 
 

 I've also come across some interesting cases of spontaneous spiritual 
experiences in literature, including one from the Victorian era which was 
likely not to have been influenced by such memes in modern culture. It seems 
it's a part of the range of human experience, how common or rare it is I cannot 
say but I did fill out a questionaire once about it but can't remember who it 
was for or if it ever got published, but they were after confirming Maslow's 
theory of peak experience and human fulfillment. How idea is that self-realised 
people display certain characteristics and one of them is periods or intense 
inner satisfaction and calm. They also appear highly well adjusted and 
independent minded.
 

 The TMO claims they are creating this experience in people just by virtue of 
them doing TM. My experience both personally and by observing others leads me 
to conclude that there may be a bit more to it than that.
 

 

 Anyway I wanted to sound people out about what they understand by 
"transcending" during meditation. Considering that our common practice is 
called Transcendental Meditation, and so we're talking about a fundamental part 
of the theory, it's amazing how different are people's understanding of this 
basic event.
 

 Some people understand that "transcending" means:
 

 1) simply the on-going stream of thoughts, images and mantra repetition during 
a meditation period. There's something to be said for this view. It's just that 
the "moments" of transcending are brief and not conscious, but probably just as 
effective for all that. The point of TM is not to have esoteric experiences but 
to refine the nervous system so you are more effective during your daily life.
 

 2) when you end your session and the time seems to have flown by and you 
remember after the event that there were jumps in awareness between the 
clusters of thoughts. They could be "sleep events" but your head hadn't dropped 
forward as usually happens during sleep and there is no post-meditation feeling 
of grogginess.
 

 3) that sense of suddenly dropping down a steep slope - rather like the jerk 
that sends shivers down your spine when you're falling asleep at night but 
suddenly experience a jolt that awakens you.
 

 4) What I think of as "warm sensations" in the mind - it's as if you've 
suddenly jumped from one cluster of brain cells to another group. This one's 
hard to explain but I know what I mean!
 

 5) a period of complete cessation of all thinking or image-producing 
tendencies of the mind. The emptiness and boundlessness is paradoxically at the 
same time a sense of fullness. No thinker = no thoughts, so you can't be 
self-consciously aware during transcending.
 

 No doubt there are other alternatives to those listed (let me know if there 
are) but I think No 5 is closest to what MMY had in mind. And that is no doubt 
also what my teacher had in mind many moons ago.
 

 Any thoughts? 
 

 When I learned the TMSP or "siddhis" we were asked whether we were we were 
transcending and what it was like. I assumed that it was when I really broke on 
through and had the intense kind of "unity" experiences that people get 
orgasmic about in the dome diaries.
 

 But the Siddhi instructor said it was simply when the mind isn't focussed on 
any one thing. Slipping out of gear as it were. This was both a relief and a 
disappointment because I had thought I wasn't going to be able to do the TMSP 
unless I was in that state and a disappointment because I thought the idea of 
the programme was to make me like that all the time. Which would be seriously 
cool except that I would be unable to function in any sort of normal career or 
relationship. But I've always been a terminal "head" and that was a sacrifice I 
was prepared to take!
 

 Or are you still a virgin?
 

 



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