--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 22, 2005, at 9:41 AM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>> Oh <nods eagerly>, obviously...
> >>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>> not aimed at relaxation, at least in the same sense that TM.
> >>>>
> >>> Ecstasy
> >>>
> >>>> dozens of times more powerful than orgasm can be profoundly
> >>>>
> >>> relaxing.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Which is why the heart rate went up so much of course...
> >>>
> >>
> >> I know people who've passed out.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Obviously a reliable sign of relaxation, rather than a stress-
> > response...
> 
> In this case, more ecstasy/samadhi than she could handle. It's  
> actually considered one of the signs of samadhi. IIRC Amma used to 
do  
> the same thing. There was another example given on this list of  
> someone Andrew Cohen had visited. I'll see if I can find it.
>

Some traditions may hold this, and perhaps they are correct. On the 
other hand, perhaps they're not. We're arguing from two different 
perspectives here. I realize that my perspective may be incorrect, or 
it might not be the whole story and that other stories may be equally 
or more valid. Even so, all stories are still stories, no matter how 
much validity they seem to have.








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