thus the "gurus" maintain the secrecy smoke screen, giving them license to screw people any which way they want to.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet. That's for initiates. ;-) On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Though the word Guru mantra (note) contains the word ‘mantra’, it mostly implies to which Name of God a disciple should chant. One should chant the Name recommended by the Guru rather than chanting the Name of one’s favourite Deity for the following reasons : 1. One does not understand which Name is best suited for one’s own spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable of providing this guidance. 2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity helps only to raise one’s sattvikta. The Guru mantra (note) however, can take one to the nirgun state. 3. The Guru mantra (note) does not contain mere letters, but has spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s blessings. Hence, spiritual progress is faster. 4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants the Guru mantra (note) with greater faith, than chanting the mantra (note) decided upon by oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant the Name given by Him and thus chanting increases. 5. When one chants the Name of the favourite Deity, at least some amount of ego accompanies it. On the contrary, when chanting the Name recommended by the Guru, there is no ego. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You posted as if you were speaking of active TM teachers. Here you mention a former TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether they "smoke". In fact I could care less if the active teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973 several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity. FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a "sacrament" for some paths. If these former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are not boring. On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to sleep. They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke. 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