No, Grasshopper, in fact once you are initiated they may tell you how
the guru mantra is selected. :-D
On 01/05/2015 01:19 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
thus the "gurus" maintain the secrecy smoke screen, giving them
license to screw people any which way they want to.
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*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 1:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet.
That's for initiates. ;-)
On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
<mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Though the word Gurumantra (note)
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html#> contains the word
‘mantra’, it mostly implies to which Name of God a disciple should
chant. One should chant the Name recommended by the Guru rather than
chanting the Name of one’s favourite Deity for the following reasons :
1. One does not understand which Name is best suited for one’s own
spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable of providing this guidance.
2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/cid_5.html> helps only to raise one’s
sattvikta. The Gurumantra (note)
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html#> however, can take
one to the nirgun state.
3. The Gurumantra (note)
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html#> does not contain
mere letters, but has spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s
blessings. Hence, spiritual progress is faster.
4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants the Gurumantra (note)
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html#> with greater faith,
than chanting the mantra (note)
<http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html#> decided upon by
oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant the Name
given by Him and thus chanting increases.
5. When one chants the Name of the favourite Deity, at least some
amount of ego accompanies it. On the contrary, when chanting the Name
recommended by the Guru <http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/27_guru.html>,
there is no ego.
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*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
<mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net> [FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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*Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you
mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around
(including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether
they "smoke". In fact I could care less if the *active* teachers
smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973 several months before I
learned TM. That after a production meeting where people got stoned
to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of stupid
ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity.
FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a "sacrament" for some paths.
If these former teachers find meditation boring try something
different. In fact find a teacher who will give them a guru mantra.
Those definitely are *not *boring.
On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com
<mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Bari2 - so naive.
I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to
India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes.
Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just
another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty
meditations just put them to sleep.
They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends.
All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a
whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke.
It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun
"make-believing".
