--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected],
> > "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I never said I didn't have any expectations.
> > > > 
> > > > I may not know what enlightenment is like, but I
> > know what it 
> > > > ain't like?
> > > > 
> > > > Still an expectation...
> > > 
> > > Exactly.
> > 
> > Yes, exactly, just as I said from the start.
> > 
> > Very funny how folks believe they're cluing me in
> > on something here.
> > 
> > > And the moment one has defined what is
> > > right here, right now as "not enlightenment,"
> > 
> > Described as my experience, not "defined."
> > 
> > > one
> > > has shut down to some extent the ability to
> > realize
> > > that what is right here, right now IS
> > enlightenment.
> > 
> > Now I'm beginning to see the motivation behind all
> > the
> > intentional language.
> > 
> > If one can frame "the ability to realize" as
> > something
> > intentional rather than as something that happens to
> > one, then one has a basis for taking personal credit
> > for it, claiming authorship of it, being in control
> > of it:
> > 
> > *I* did it, me, all by myself!
> 
> But there is no person to take credit for it in
> enlightenment. Prior to this there is a sense of
> ownership and responsibility for action and its
> concequences. But in enlightenment it is an absurd
> notion to talk about an individuality. None can be
> located . 

But the three gunas are still acting in the manner in which the three 
gunas manifest in a body with a certain genetic makeup and history.






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