--- Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In tantra ignorance is recognized as one of ones
> basic qualities and instead of denied is changed
> into the mirror of the basic condition underlying
> all things.
> 
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> judy stein wrote:
> You have said two contradictory things: that
> enlightenment is exactly like ignorance, and
> that it's not exactly like ignorance.  
> 
> TorquiseB writes:
> Exactly.  Now you're getting it.  :-)
> 
> Tom T comments:
> This is the entire story of Jaimini. On the one hand
> there is
> ignorance and the other there is enlightenment.  The
> paradox of
> awakening is that both, either or neither can be
> held in the mind at
> any time. The whole purpose of Jaimini was to
> stretch the container.
> Of course it goes without saying that it can be held
> but not
> understand how this container can hold two
> diametrically opposed
> things. That is the underlying reality of the day to
> day living of it.
> Not understanding how is part of the fun. It seems
> that the conundrum
> brought to the surface brings out the joke of how it
> was hidden right
> in front of you all this time. So you can live it
> but not understand
> it for a while. What's wrong with not understanding
> as long as one has
> the joy of the paradox itself? Hey! play with the
> paradox, it is your
> toy. Tom T

The funniest part is that when it is no longer hidden,
it becomers self-evident that it was never hidden.
Self has never been "not". It is "the same" in one
claiming ignorance as in one claiming enlightenment
because it IS NOT AN EXPERIENCE, it is the  "context"
of everything. Let this point to THAT.





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