Ah, but for me watching old veterans like DeForrest Kelly more than makes up 
for Shatner's performances. 

      From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
   
    I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the 
original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical 
significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, 
there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 
seconds of *any* episode -- B A D   A C T I N G    
There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, 
according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than 
William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard 
to me. 

I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While 
it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the 
planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of 
Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. 

I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to 
appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me 
any time.  :-)



   

   From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :

I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! 

Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode 
though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" 
with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I 
particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving 
mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. 
Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly!
I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was 
younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to 
my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her 
favorite. 

TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the 
movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. 
Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the 
schedules though.
What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English 
character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped 
some sense into him.
  From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
 
 
Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge.
That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the 
one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid!






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in 
the Dark)

  From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote :

Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we 
assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' 
Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that 
wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another 
problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the 
buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The 
truth is out there....or not.

Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble 
us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication 
technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the 
speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any 
reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what 
speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined 
entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is 
present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. 
It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common 
value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown.
So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary 
barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of 
light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. 
When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking 
years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and 
billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we 
experience now which happened long ago.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :---In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :

There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way.  
However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or 
the rest of the galaxy.
Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to 
communicate--such as through telepathy.  If the universe is based on 
consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through 
consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe.
Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone 
- let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic 
communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of 
my knowledge neither has anybody else.
>From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or 
>receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one 
>sending them.
The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is 
impossible anyway and we therefore cannot use it as evidence either for or 
against alien life.

Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual 
reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire 
cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak.  These are not my ideas, but 
are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of 
philosophy and science, particularly physics.

I've watched a few of his physics clips on youtube and he has a solid grasp of 
the subject - as you would hope given his background - the trouble is he goes 
leaping off into unfounded fantasies and wild extrapolations without offering 
any evidence other than that he thinks it's possible, and then only according 
to the way he interprets things.
As I outline above there is a serious problem with the idea of transgalactic 
telepathy. He is also a standard bearer for remote viewing which is another 
mysterious claim that has no convincing evidence. Both things would be easy to 
prove so why doesn't he? Theorise then test. That's the way it works.
I suppose you could say that channellers are receiving instantaneous messages 
from aliens but they lack all credibility. It all boils down to their being no 
action at a distance, if there was a way round it we would be able to exploit 
it here and wouldn't need to wait for aliens to talk to us. Do you agree?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :


Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe 
where the hell is everybody?
Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in?



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