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Lest anyone think that I'm being overly sexist and base by appreciating "the 
women of Firefly" as I do above, give a listen to this award acceptance speech 
from the guy who created these characters, and his perfect answer to the 
question, "Why do you write such strong female characters?" 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaczoJMRhs

I've posted this before, but I'm reposting it in hopes anyone might be 
interested in the larger questions it brings up -- why *are* strong, 
independent, and powerful women characters so rare on TV and in movies? And who 
are some of your favourites?
Never saw Firefly but loved Buffy (how could you not?) and it's clear what his 
intentions were and clear that he succeeded. 

I have to stop you here, even though I suspected this slightly when I posted 
what I did. You have never seen "Firefly?" Oh, what wonders lie before you. 

On a fan-created Firefly-related DVD I have, noted scifi author Orson Scott 
Card tells the story of his son returning from college for Xmas vacation and 
giving him a DVD copy of the first and only season of "Firefly." He tells this 
story very well, especially the part where he admits during his son's next 
vacation to having never seen it, and watching his face shift and take on the 
look of a person who has just heard his father admit to murdering babies. 
"Firefly" is that kinda series. Really. Orson Scott Card goes on to say in this 
fan-doc, after having watched the series, that "Firefly" is the best science 
fiction TV series ever made. Ever. I agree with him. I have never seen its 
equal. The only thing even close is Joss Whedon's own followup series 
"Dollhouse." 

His stuff is clearly in stark contrast to women in Star Trek and especially in 
Dr Who where the female lead always made the tea and screamed a lot. They did 
try having a female scientist as a companion for the doctor once but it was 
hopeless as there was no one to ask those stupid questions that allow an 
explanation for the benefit of the audience about what was going on.
I'm not being hard on them though, they didn't fight it even thought there must 
have been other ways round the damsel in distress dilemma, I think was just the 
way society was in those days. Even in later shows like Blakes 7 the women were 
intended to be stronger but ended up in the usual, catering and comfort zones. 
The memes changed though, was it with Ripley in Alien that decent female leads 
went mainstream? 

Pretty much. She predated Sarah Connor in "Terminator" by 5 years. 

I'm not enough of a sci-fi historian. I know the novels I read had a lot of 
good female leads, Heinlein's Friday in particular. Larry Niven, most of the 
ones I can think of actually. I must have grown up with it without realising it.
I remember reading that Nichelle Nichols wanted to quit her role as Lt Uhura in 
Star Trek  because she thought it was too demeaning just to be saying "hailing 
frequences open Captain" but it was Sammy Davis Jr who persuaded her that just 
having a black women on TV was worth the sacrifice, and then she had the first 
inter-racial kiss on TV with Kirk! What a strange time that must have been for 
that to seem like a big deal.
Similar to Billy Crystal being the first openly-gay actor on American TV, in 
the underappreciated "Soap."


  
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