Jason, There are still Jews who consider themselves as the "Chosen People" here in the USA. They may or may not be Zioneists. Nonetheless, they follow several hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship. They still frown upon intermarriage with outsiders or goyim. I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa. ---In [email protected], <jason_green2@...> wrote : ---<jr_esq@...> wrote : No, I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written by Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. But it is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinking about the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict. For both the Jews and Arabs, they blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews to perform their duties as the "Chosen People" in the Bible. --- <salyavin808@...> wrote : The fact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills me with dread. Someone should point out that it doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you like. Believing that god gave you all the land west of the river Jordan doesn't - or shouldn't - make it so. A bit less arrogance on that front might have worked wonders in 1948. --- <turquoiseb@...> wrote : A strong case can be made that it is the very existence of this "Chosen People" myth that has caused the ongoing persecution of Jews over the centuries. Historically, the same sort of persecution hounds *any* religious group who consider themselves "special" and "better" than others around them who don't follow their religion. --- <salyavin808@...> wrote : Another miserable twist of fate was that the Jews are the only one of the three main western religions that can lend money with interest. So they were the go-to guys for a loan and obviously it doesn't pay to be soft if you are a money lender, hence all the "Jews are tight with money" stereotypes. In any alternate reality it could have been the others with that particular cross to bear.. This notion that, "we are chosen and special" existed in all cultures, tribes and societies all over the world. According to a yogi, this feeling arose out of a "primitive, insular ignorance." Now that the earth is no longer the center of the universe, most societies have gotten over that idea. Only the Zionists and Jihadists continue to hold that view. Integration is not possible unless this fraudulent world-view is dispelled. They too are apes that came down from the trees in the african savannah.
