Which stretches from southeastern Europe on the Black Sea all the way into Asia
on the Caspian Sea, so if your progenitors came from the more northwestern part
of the Caucasus region, the scholars are still correct - southern Europe.
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
My paternal haplogroup, which occurs almost exclusively in a small
percentage of Ashkenazi Jews, originated in the Caucasus region.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
No one knows where the Ashkenazim came from but most scholars think they
started in southern Italy and other parts of southern Europe.
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 8:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Machinelike or Random?
By the logical extension of your own argument, the entire
north america should be handed over to the Red Indians. They
were the original inhabitants of the Americas.
Many ethnic groups all over the world don't have a seperate
country of their own. That is not necessary either. The
Ashkanaz jews were central asian converts and they never
lived in Israel. They are the ones who migrated to europe.
Besides, there was never any need to partition the
territory. A special arrangement could have been made for
those sephardim jews who wanted to settle down there,
without disturbing the indigenous people who were already
there.
--- <richard@...> wrote :
You need to read some history books. The people of Judea were there long before
the Arabs invaded the land and tried to kill all the Jews. Do you have any
historical evidence that proves the Arabs were in Judea before it was called
Judea? I think not.
Judea and Samaria is the West Bank! They don't call it the 'Land of Judea' for
nothing! Human settlement in Judea stretches back to the Stone Age. The
Israelites lived in Jericho, back in 1025 B.C. It's a fact of history that this
land was invaded by the Arabs in 636 A.D.
"The prevailing opinion today is that the Israelites, who eventually evolved
into the modern Jews and Samaritans, are an outgrowth of the indigenous
Canaanites who had resided in the area since the 8th millennium BCE."
Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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(/ˈɪzriəˌlaɪts, -reɪ-/)[1] were a Semitic people of the Ancient Near East, who
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--- <jason_green2@...> wrote :
Stop this bullshit willytex. No referendum was held in that
territory. God is not a real estate dealer. The UN stole
that land from indigenous people. They called other
communities dogs for centuries.
"But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter."
(Mark 7:25-26).
"And He was saying to her, "Let the children be satisfied
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and
throw it to the dogs." (Mark 7:27).
The Jews called the Gentiles "dogs" in the same way we would
call someone a "bitch" (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2;
Revelation 22:15). It was a term of contempt.
--- <richard@...> wrote :
According to what I've read, so-called "non-Zionist" Jews are pleased that
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state,
and often decry aspects of its secular culture.
Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland,
preferably Israel (Israel is where "Zion" is, hence Zionism). Criticizing
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.
-- <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Jason,
There are still Jews who consider themselves as the "Chosen People" here in the
USA. They may or may not be Zioneists. Nonetheless, they follow several
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship. They still frown upon
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim. I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.
---<jr_esq@...> wrote :
No,I'm not converting to Judaism. I just reacted to the words written
byBhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and thecosmological
models that have been discussed here for the past week orso.
Butit is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinkingabout
the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict. For both the Jewsand Arabs, they
blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews toperform their duties as
the "Chosen People" in the Bible.
--- <salyavin808@...> wrote :
Thefact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills me with
dread.Someone should point out that it doesn't give you carte blanche to
dowhatever you like. Believing that god gave you all the land west of theriver
Jordan doesn't - or shouldn't - make it so. A bit less arroganceon that front
might have worked wonders in 1948.
--- <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
Astrong case can be made that it is the very existence of this "ChosenPeople"
myth that has caused the ongoing persecution of Jews over thecenturies.
Historically, the same sort of persecution hounds *any*religious group who
consider themselves "special" and "better" thanothers around them who don't
follow their religion.
--- <salyavin808@...> wrote :
Anothermiserable twist of fate was that the Jews are the only one of the
threemain western religions that can lend money with interest. So they werethe
go-to guys for a loan and obviously it doesn't pay to be soft if youare a money
lender, hence all the "Jews are tight with money"stereotypes. In any alternate
reality it could have been the others withthat particular cross to bear..
--- <jason_green2@...> wrote :
This notion that, "we are chosen and special" existed in all
cultures, tribes and societies all over the world.
According to a yogi, this feeling arose out of a "primitive,
insular ignorance."
Now that the earth is no longer the center of the universe,
most societies have gotten over that idea. Only the Zionists
and Jihadists continue to hold that view.
Integration is not possible unless this fraudulent
world-view is dispelled.
They too are apes that came down from the trees in the
african savannah.
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