As I have mentioned before, I was on staff and MIU when the Old Goat first 
rolled out ayurveda - I heard Big Bopper Bevan's first lecture about it, having 
just come back from Europe, sitting at Marshy's knee to learn all about it.
It was amazing how instantly many students, staff and faculty went whole hog 
for it just on Marshy's word alone. It was one of the first times I really saw 
the group psychosis in action. I was not one of them, and at least some of my 
reluctance was due to my reaction to the way people became instant sheep, doing 
all kinds of shit they normally would not have done on the Old Fraud's word. 
You should have seen the line in the Annapurna dining hall serving area for 
people queued up to get their hot milk and ghee each and every morning.  

      From: "TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]" 
<[email protected]>
 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
 Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Commencement
   
    From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>

---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>

---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :

It was apparently the suggestion that MIU/MUM has gotten its accreditation by 
bribery with cash and whores that outraged our Dome Centric friend here on FFL. 
Of course that was satire, but were it to turn out to be fact in part or in 
whole I would not be surprised. 

Actually that would surprise me but I got the humorous intention behind it. 
Especially as it was adapted wholesale from the bit that "Buck" posted.
It's funny how Doug can get upset about an obvious joke like that but not get 
upset about the news that the national yagya program (cash for completely 
ineffectual prayers) costs people he probably knows millions every year. The 
fact that the supposedly scientific MUM hasn't even attempted to validate such 
an impressive cash cow surprises me. They try and prove that other supernatural 
powers exist but here's an obvious one that would elevate their standing in the 
world of science immeasurably. Proving the efficacy of prayer! They'd be 
legends overnight and people would flock to the movement and bring about the 
golden age in a heartbeat..
I suspect that there's a reason they haven't attempted to validate this and 
that is that even they know it's a load of deluded crap. That's people you know 
Doug, getting conned. Doesn't that rile you at all? It does me.
I once would have thought this, that no one could be so far gone as to believe 
that yagyas actually do anything, but the figures you posted the other days 
shocked me into realizing that I was trying to give people more credit than 
they deserved. I mean, let's face it...any group that actually spend FIVE 
MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR on this demented psychobabble really isn't sane.  

Maybe not but I just think they are deluded - religiously deluded. I think they 
need to be saved from themselves but they are probably all happy in their 
world. 
It's a clever process, you know how it works, the TMO carefully cultivates a 
nonsense belief system based on unified fields and cosmic consciousness and how 
our minds can affect the world from its fundamental level, they talk a load of 
tosh about science validating it all and then introduce a special programme to 
negate returning bad kharma that can be seen by their jyotishees and create 
positive influences instead. Who wouldn't go for it once they've brought 
everything else?
I like to think that I wouldn't have. After all, I managed to figure out that 
the siddhis were a scam only a few months after I learned them, back in 1977. 
So I bailed from the whole organization. I like to think that had I had the 
misfortune to stick around, any mention of Ayurveda, Jyotish, Rajas, or S-V 
would have had me bolting for the door, long before they trotted out yagyas.  
:-)
It doesn't matter to me whether it yagya's were invented to deliberately con 
people, but the TMO is in a position to test them scientifically but doesn't 
even try. I asked Fred Travis why things like MVVT and yagya's never get 
properly tested if they are going to be paid for and he agreed with me that all 
things the TMO sells should be tested! But he won't, if they did that they'd 
have to admit the whole thing was crap, of that I have no doubt. And it's a lot 
of moolah to lose...
The relevant mantra in this situation really is "Ka-Ching." 

I'd like someone to ask David Lynch about it at a public meeting. See if he 
ducks and dives. 
He managed to dodge the "the problem with Hitler was that he didn't succeed" 
debacle in Germany. He does the SIMS Shuffle even better than we old SIMS 
teachers did it, so I figure he'd be able to brush off any such questions 
without actually addressing them. 



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