From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>

---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
It's about time someone raised a non-hysterical voice about all of this AI 
stuff. Hinton is absolutely correct in his last sentences in this article -- 
people have much more to fear from other people than they do from AIs. 

I find it fascinating how much of an *emotional* issue this -- the idea of 
machine sentience -- is for many people. For many of them it's a religious 
thang, in that they actually believe that creating intelligent life is 
something reserved for God...who doesn't exist. But for many others I think 
it's almost a racial/ethnic fear. For them, shiny robots have taken the place 
in their catalog of Things To Fear alongside people they consider niggers and 
ragheads. 

I guess it's a trend. Intelligent minds find ways to become more intelligent, 
and small minds find ways to become even smaller. 
I don't know how likely it is even though it's obviously possible. I think a 
big fear is that we really do make ourselves obsolete. We might create 
something better than us that considers us worthless or at least a subordinate 
system. We've done it already, society is a complex emergent system that 
depends on us but we sacrifice ourselves to it to keep it alive. Think how much 
more powerful a worldwide robotic brain would be in keeping us in our place! 
Perhaps the only robot code we need is to make sure we can pull out the plug?
Or even something that can replace the job we do would be scary. And then 
there's autonomous battle machines, that's only going to end in tears but it 
isn't stopping them being built.
But perhaps the biggest fear is a philosophical one. If we can create a cyber 
brain that works exactly the same way as ours that must definitively mean that 
we are simply our brains and there is no soul or spirit. That might hurt a lot 
of people more than unemployment or Skynet ever could.

I don't know whether you got a chance to see the movie I raved about recently, 
"Ex Machina." IMO it's the most intelligent film about AI I've ever seen. 

The quirk that makes it most interesting is that one can view the Turing Test 
being conducted in the film two different ways -- either as a test performed by 
humans on an AI to determine whether it's truly sentient (and thus worthy of 
continuing to live), or the opposite...the exact same test, performed on humans 
by the AI. 

  From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rise of the machines?
 
 
Brain upgrades on the way at the very least... it's like we actually want to 
make ourselves obsolete!
Google a step closer to developing machines with human-like intelligence

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|  |     |  |     Google a step closer to developing machines with... An 
algorithm developed by Google is designed to encode thought, which could lead 
to computers with ‘common sense’ within a decade, says leading AI scientist |  |
|     View on www.theguardian.com    |   Preview by Yahoo  |
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