On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:44 PM, Duveyoung <[email protected]>
wrote:
Seems to me that since a single photon of light hitting a dark-conditioned
retina can trigger a change in the flow of consciousness -- a single photon
could possibly be a tipping point's "final straw" and so, an
infant's-personality-that's-ever-so-fragile could thereby get hard-wired into a
"something or other." I think we discussed this point some weeks ago. a single
photon of light likely, on the basis of experiment, can affect the retina of
the eye, but it is not an event the becomes conscious because the impulse does
not get any further than this in the nervous system.
Of course, it's hard to imagine a research scenario that could measure such
thing. But I mention this as a viable concept for this discussion, because of
the research on the "dirty water that is purified by radiation" -- "purified"
means anything-not-water gets separated out. I'll link below to the research,
as I have done several times here at FFL,
You did not link to the research, you linked to a YouTube video. That is not
scientific research. Pollack supposedly published this research in a low
quality on-line journal called Water, but it turns out, what was uploaded was
not a scientific paper, but a page listing the table of contents of his book,
purchasable elsewhere. So no published research at all, just advertising. This
is the abstract for the article, which is not an abstract for research but a
sales pitch:
'The following paragraphs are reproduced from the website of the publisher [1].
Professor Pollack takes us on a fantastic voyage through water, showing us a
hidden universe teeming with physical activity that provides answers so simple
that any curious person can understand. In conversational prose, Pollack lays a
simple foundation for understanding how changes in water’s structure underlie
most energetic transitions of form and motion on earth.'
The citation footnote [1] in the abstract did not refer to any information
either, not being a link or reference to anything else on the page.
Not that that's a proof of astrology's main axiom, but that that indicates that
light is VERY impacting at the subtlest of levels.
There is very very much proof about instant printing. We see birds immediately
attach "that's my parent" to anything that moves when it is first born. We
know this kind of global psychological "hardening" is seen across the
biological spectrum.
Us human beings too? Why not? We know that trauma can do this. Why not the
first light that floods the newborn's eye?
I paid good bucks to eleven jyotishi-types. Nothing came true, no one "nailed
me," I was never warned about something, and no insights into what I'd been in
the past, and they all majorly disagreed with each other. And all of them were
consulted EXACTLY WHEN I NEEDED ADVICE THE MOST -- my life troubles during that
time were the WORST of my life, but no jyotish person warned or saw this.
So don't try to sell me any more jyotish, but don't toss it out with the
western astrology bathwater. I think the "light is synchronous" (not causal)
concept has traction. It's just that science is not up to examining it, and
probably won't be for another 100 years.
A good experiential observation that jyotish/astrology is hokum.
Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :
What possible difference can those things make? The fact that astrology and
astronomy have common roots only means that eventually those who created and
followed the SCIENTIFIC method and way began to require real evidence for their
theories and ideas. The astrologers on the other hand continued to rely on
mystical ideas that have never been validated.
Isaac Newton was a scientist and an alchemist. The fact that he pursued some
non-scientific mumbo jumbo does not take away from his scientific achievements
nor does it validate his mystical endeavors or make alchemy as he practiced it
a science.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is Astrology Science?
My bet is the only astrology thewriters are familiar with is western or
tropical astrology. Theyprobably don't even know what jyotish is. And I bet
they don'tknow that astronomy came as the result of astrology nor thatKepler's
day job was making charts for astrologers. So hedeveloped better methods of
determining orbits.
On 05/27/2015 01:31 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Astrology:Is it scientific?
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