/There is probably a reason Barry uses the alias "Uncle Tantra" and "TurquoiseB" when he posts his satires on the internet. //It kind of makes him seem like a deviate to say the least. I thought it was amusing at first until he accused me of "fucking prarie dogs" just because he didn't like something I said about Fred Lenz. Go figure./
/Why don't you ask Barry why he enjoys such provokations and why he gets all offended and calls in the Dutch Police when someone posts a funny reply to his deviant sexual satires? / Quoting "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>:
I do not think anyone should molest children. I do not think that children should be molested. It is a problem in this world and one that needs to be discussed. You just do not seem to grasp the difference between fiction and non-fiction in regard to the relationship of thoughts and speech to the world, and of thoughts and speech to action or non-action. I think morality is a useless concept because usually it is based on a superstitious world-view, but that ethics is something we need to formulate to maximise happiness and well-being, though I think of the word in a different sense than typical, not related to the concepts of 'right' and 'wrong' which vary with geography and cultural groups, but as something that might have a stronger more solid basis, scientific even, though that might be a stretch. As the experience of being takes over, the inner core of a person rots away because it is not real and is replaced with a 'core' that is not localised, not inner, not outer. So yes, I have rotted to the core. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote : Xeno, you appear to be giving child molestation a pass, as simply subject to our conditioning. I find this line of thinking inhumane, and morally bankrupt. No need to discuss this further with you, and I recommend that you see a therapist. Something in your core has apparently rotted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : Of course I actually do not know. Estimates range from 1% to 5% of the population. There is a difference between thought and action except when identification is so strong that thought and desire is the only possible reality overriding all alternatives. That it is possible to imagine things, invent things in the mind that are not real but which are disturbing to other people. For example, writers like Stephen King, and makers of horror movies, for example, can dream up all sorts of gruesome things that they would never imagine doing in their private life at home. Take for example the motion picture 'Let the Right One In', a Swedish production. It is a peculiar romance, a love story, set amid the background of vampirism. It is a strange, dark, but wonderfully moving film, and yet I suspect many people would be totally revolted by it, or deeply upset. People's thoughts and conditioning result in many things in this film appearing as somehow real. Truth is never based on what someone said. It is the background by which one might determine how what someone says conforms to what happens in the universe. It is the 'sense' from which logic is born, and the 'sense' that allows us to see difference between thoughts, actions, experiences. There are linear modes of appreciation (thought) and non-linear modes (intuition). Neither is absolutely reliable in determining the states of things, but they are a guide. There were at last post count 23 posters (minus Fairfield Life and Barry posting two different ways). Thus based on statistics there is about 1/4 to one child molester on this forum. We sometimes find the people who object to something strenuously themselves are guilty of that very thing. Barry lives with what seems to be a close knit group; it seems unlikely to me he would be what you think. I usually suspect the most vocal people first, those who make a show of how horrible something is. But in reality we do not have any evidence whatever. Just going by what a person says is not reliable. Have you ever been to the Baby in the Meat Grinder Hamburger Palace? I love horror films. I seldom get my buttons pushed watching horror movies, though it has happened a few times in the past 7 decades. I find romantic movies harder to watch, they push my buttons more. Whatever, but those who react most strongly always seem to me to not be thinking clearly. If something is really that bad in 'real life', you don't run away, you stay and try to do something about it if that is possible. FFL is not exactly real life. Ideas are discussed here, it is a platform for discussion, even though it often devolves into personal rivalries, which I believe is the result of conditioning. If you really want to find out anything directly, you would have to go to the Netherlands. It is much easier to say something. And in the United States, by law, a person is presumed innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be guilty of something. Statistically, you could be just as guilty of what you spoke about
Barry.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote : How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything, but I am *very curious* about how you know the truth of what you just said, about Barry, or anyone else here? Wouldn't the simplest way to make such an association (of child molestation), be based on what someone said? Especially if no one else has even come close to making such a suggestion? How else would you determine the truth? This has nothing to do with conditioning. It has to do with understanding better how your mind works, because you aren't sounding at all logical right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : Somebody Cares is a gift shop in Fairfield Iowa. I don't live there any more. There are pressing issues on FFL? You just did not do what you said, that's all. That is not an issue with me, but to write about something here, an attempt at subject matter gives focus, until the conversation drifts off on another tangent. By the way, violence against children in the world is fairly commonplace, but here no one I am aware of is a child molester, so its mention is not really a matter of any concern unless a person is accused of it, and then it is a concern to that person perhaps as it was to Barry. Where violence is actually directed at children is the concern. Why you got off on that tangent is beyond me. Maybe you have or had a particular button that got pressed. It happens. Everybody has buttons. Conditioning lasts all life long. Enlightenment does not get rid of conditioning automatically, it does rid the mind of certain patterns of thought and reaction, but not all patterns. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <reverse_archery@...> wrote : Since you cracked open the post, might as well share the whole thing... "Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no
longer a
healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I
guess I
am one of the casualties. See ya!!" Anyway, Rick hasn't done jack, so who cares whether I post here or not, or what I said about posting here, previously? Is that truly our most pressing issue here on FFL, Xeno? If you agree that it is, I'd love to hear why. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : 'Perhaps they were under the impression' refers to Barry and Salyavin; 'persons' refers to Jim and Judy. Jim on 28 Nov 2014 Rick - Until Barry is removed - Goodbye So, if Jim was true to his word, he ought not be posting to FFL now. So he lied. Judy made no such announcement, just stopped posting one day, but returned 24 April 2015 for a few posts and then on 27 April 2015 wrote, 'You can all relax now.' and 'Now I'm going to go take a long hot bath to wash off the corruption. Phew. Bye.' This implied she was signing off and would prefer not to have to deal with certain people on FFL, for example 'It was the relentless vicious and dishonest personal attacks, led by Barry, on those TM supporters that finally triggered the mass exodus to The Peak.' Judy made references to Barry's thugs, which might include me. However she did not specifically say she would not return. As for me, because Judy said 'I stand by what I wrote', she cannot have a discussion with me without lying because I have not withdrawn or documented certain accusations, Judy saying 'Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything with you until you've documented your accusations, or withdrawn them.' As far as I can tell, Judy is consistent here, as far as never having said she would not return. Returning to a situation that has never resolved is a good example of how the mind's thinking processes revolve in samsara, and this is not a bad thing, rebirth involves both experiences we wish not to revisit and those we wish to. Ah, the glory of battle! Hell grant soon we hear again the swords clash! And the shrill neighs of destriers in battle rejoicing, Spiked breast to spiked breast opposing! Better one hour's stour than a year's peace With fat boards, bawds, wine and frail music! Bah! there's no wine like the blood's crimson!
—Ezra Pound
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : Perhaps they were under the impression, based on what was said, these particular persons would not return to FFL ever. You wouldn't be referring to Jim and me, would you? Are you afraid to state our names? Actually if they were under that impression based on what I said, they were hallucinating, because I didn't say nuttin'. Such a reappearance is like the re-discovery of some rare endangered species thought to be extinct, like the mugwort salamander is to botanists and batrachologists. In this case though, preservation of species is not the goal. I believe hunting techniques to extinction are probably more likely, one of the forces of natural selection here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : This is hilarious. Jim and I pop in for brief visits, leave a few posts each, and Barry and Salyavin spring into full-on jibbering-idiot mode, slapping together a tag-team pastiche of stupid mistakes, lies, misrepresentations, and wildly illogical "analyses." Funniest of all, they portray Jim's and my visits as a massive invasion of a horde of bloodthirsty Peakers. I wasn't going to post again for awhile, but this is just too tempting. I have a little extra time this week, so I may stick around and take apart their freakout piece by piece. Stay tuned...
