It would be interesting to know, just from an FFL historical viewpoint, exactly
what enormities of mine were spelled out in your indictment of me from the
previous time.
Can you post it here for all of us to read and enjoy?
P.S. - If you do I am about to go offline for I have some regular work to do so
I may not read it till tonight. Happy Sheep Shearing! Or does that take place
in the fall?
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
MJ,you are making a lot of assumptions here hypothetically splitting hairs.
Trolling? I have no problem with your content here about Maharishi by case.
That is differentthan when you step on the yahoo-groups guidelines where you
aretrying to hurt people.
Now,for instance well before Rick tapped me for enforcement of theyahoo-group
guideline as a FFL CEO I drew up an indictment of youagainst the yahoo-groups
guidelines and was preparing to send it overto Rick for action. However it was
then becoming apparent that youwere reading the current of change coming here
and were moderatingyourself more in alignment with the yahoo-groups guidelines
and evenapologizing for misdeeds here. I did not send that indictment overto
Rick so you were never tried on that indictment. That quiteevidently was
different than what you are trying for in this.
Howeverif you or anyone else don't wish to abide by the yahoo-groupsguidelines
I should not be glad to slow down the send-cycle of yourposts to FFL and place
them on to a 'moderated' status beforereleasing them to FFL, as I may get
around to them. If you wish it all tobe over more quickly I could drag out the
indictment and review ithere and it would be evident [ref FFL# 415306]. However
right now Ishould wish to have people go forward from this point clean.
Theyahoo-groups guidelines themselves are quite simple and require ofwriters
only some self-control. Have a nice day, -JaiGuruYou!
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
All right, well I disagree.
Specifically, I disagree that there have to be facts to back up any insults or
revilement I or others may toss out towards Marshy, TM and or the Movement.
Does not my belief in such things make no difference?
If the answer is no, then folks like Nappy Nabby would no longer be able to
post crop circle crap or news of the perennially impending appearance of
Maitreya. There are no facts to support such posts.
In addition, the belief in facts any poster uses to back up their posts will
not be universally accepted by all readers.
I believe that colloidal silver is an excellent thing to use and back that
assertion up with my own experiences, yet my friend Sal from across the Great
Water believes them "facts" to be crap.
Thus by your standards I cannot call Marshy a fraud unless I have a photo of
him stuffing a suitcase full of cash and handing it off to Neal Patterson to
transport to India and a photo of a grinning and slimmer Girish taking the
suitcase from Neal's hand over in India.
In addition I cannot personally adhere to the yahoo guidelines governing
insults, because most of what I say about Marshy, TM and the Movement could
certainly be construed by others as being insulting, but only be TM True
Believers.
So I fatalistically await my impending removal from FFL.
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
DearMJ; Son, I have not problem with your content here. My moderatinginterests
are in the parity of the use and impact of words within theYahoo-groups
guidelines. Shocking as your content may be to someother people's sensibility
these comment may possibly make fairconversation on Fairfieldlife at
yahoo-groups [FFL] so long as there is some evident factto back them up
[reference to the testimony already in the FFL archive] ..and they are not used
simply as a means to slursomeone on a public forum. -JaiGuruYou
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Even if I say that Marshy was a liar, cheat, fraud and con artist and that he
was a serial womanizer? Just figured I would test how deep or shallow the newly
moderated waters are, you see.
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
We sat over this together in church the other day. It will be fine.
-JaiGuruYou
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Sad news.
Might I propose, before Doug starts banning people, that you and Rick insist on
a few guidelines for *him* when he does this.
I'm suggesting this because I think everyone here is aware that Doug
is...uh...not quite in touch with reality these days, and tends to see things
that aren't really there.
So what I suggest is that if he is indeed given the power to ban someone, he
cannot do so without reposting *the exact post* that Doug feels is in violation
of the Yahoo Guidelines, and without explaining to the group *exactly why* he
thinks this poster needs to be banned.
Otherwise, you know what's going to happen. Doug will just ban the people he
doesn't like, without telling *anyone*, and they'll just fall off the radar
because they can't post any more, either to complain or to defend themselves.
I think we all know that a tyrant has just been handed the keys to the kingdom.
I think we also all know what he will do with them. I'm just suggesting a
procedure that insures he can't do it in secret.
From: "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
As is typically the case these days, I am completely out of the loop with
respect to Rick's handling of FFL. Doug's posts this morning piqued my
curiosity, and it turns out that Rick made Doug a moderator yesterday
afternoon. I have no idea what Doug is supposed to do in terms of enforcement.
As for me, my role will not change.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
ThanksR-V, I appreciate the perspective of your enlightened high-minded empathy
in experiencefor the well-being of FFL.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your
first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something,
given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you
all the best in your new role...
---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
'Don'tbe Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightenedin
their guidance.
Forinstance,
“Ifone is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. Bynegative
thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches andmuddy colors in the
aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God'screative energy from reaching
him. Without the light of God, thebody starts of manifest various imbalances
and one's health andlifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and
excesssunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained bycosmic
current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91
---In [email protected], <reverse_archery@...> wrote :
Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for
creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the
thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the
guidelines. Nothing to be proud of.
The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion,
about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous
solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums,
mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and
yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations.
---In [email protected], <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :
Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick
asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions,
keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would
get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on
the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting
limit.
WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular
basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :
J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy
making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loooooong time
(wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than
I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his
silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander
plays as moderator.
From: salyavin808 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
---In [email protected], <reverse_archery@...> wrote :
Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO
moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep
questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have
adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything
per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this
point.
I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there
if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of
denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some
sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you
understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away.
Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go
away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go
away.
You are the trolls. Go away.
---In [email protected], <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Itis true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur inviolation of the
Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have beenmoderated simply then by the group
owner.
Moderationis simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a
postthemselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's
membershipposting privilege.
Either-or. Ask the person for someself-restraint and if they don't come right
through then clip theirmembership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are
quitereasonable. -JaiGuruYou!
---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote :
From: "reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it
doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you
personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think
you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing
Barry of anything...
Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of
anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of
automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical
weapons might just show up in the keyword scans of Internet traffic conducted
by the NSA, ATF, and Secret Service, so such bragging might not be the smartest
thing for him to do.
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