Well, let's see - Sal is still here, Barry is still here, Doug is still here,
if this post goes through that will mean I am still here, dunno about
Duveyoung, or Seraphita, hmmmmm. Could it be that Steve,Willy's Clone got the
ax?
Let me hit send and see if it was me.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
DearFriends of FFL; Regrettably as moderators we recently received acompliant
having to do with protecting people's privacy on FFL thatwas actionable. The
offending post was removed and the author of theinvasion on someone's privacy
using FFL, a Yahoo-group, was removedfrom the community. -JaiGuruYou
Are you going to tell us who it was or will we have to identify them by their
absence?
"Your use of Groups is subject to theseGuidelines, Keep your content relevant
to the groupand moderate it correctly.Be courteous.Moderate your content."
“Don't threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don'tinvade other
people's privacy...the group owner may remove yourcontent — or you — from the
group altogether."
“2. Don't be unkind. Exploitativeor degrading comments are not welcome in
Groups. Also not welcome arebelligerence, insults, slurs, profanity or
ranting.”
Exploitative, especially: unfairly or cynically using another person or group
for profit oradvantage;
to use selfishly for one's own ends.
Degrading: causing a loss ofself-respect; humiliating
Belligerence: a warlike or aggressively hostile nature, condition, orattitude.
Insult: to speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. Adisrespectful
or scornfully abusive remark or action. An insult isan expression, statement
(or sometimes behavior) which isdisrespectful or scornful.
Slur:an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insultthem or
damage their reputation.
Profanity: abusive, vulgar, orirreverent.
To Rant, to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild
over-vehement way; rave.
"Keepyour content relevant to the group and moderate it correctly." “Don'tbe
unkind”.
"We depend on each member to help keepit [FFL] a safe, fun, and positive place
for everyone. Yahoo Groups, in its sole discretion,may terminate or remove any
content, Group or your Yahoo IDimmediately and without notice if (a) Yahoo
believes that you haveacted inconsistently with the spirit or the letter of the
Yahoo Termsof Service or the Yahoo Groups Guidelines, or (b) Yahoo believes
youhave violated or tried to violate the rights of others. Please helpus keep
Yahoo Groups an enjoyable and positive experience." "Ifyou see a Group or
content that violates our rules, please let usknow by contacting us
[..yahoo-groups]."
Yahoo Groups Guidelines
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people who share your interests and passions. We depend on each member to help
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[..Some people evidently are notamenable to group collaborations which it seems
is why groups,organizations or larger society may well protect and preserve
themselves for theutility and well-being of their larger membership by removing
orseparating destructive asocial members.
There is good reason to lacktrust in collaboration on FFL at Yahoo-groups by
what has beenallowed to become a dominant culture of a few here. Of afear of
getting needlessly ensnared by any participation of puttingones thoughts and
self forward. Folks generally are denied theopportunity to think together with
good people on FFL for all thesnark of the ad hominem attack.
It takes skills and practice tosee discussion as thinking but it takes allies
of kindness to thinktogether creatively. For the engagement within a group
[FFL] to beeffective there need be folks and a moderation willing and able to
stand up to bullies who would destroy forum, to have athinking forum.
Truth evidently won't 'set usfree' until we have the courage, skills, habit and
moral courageto kindly explore it. There evidently are few allies of
civildiscourse on FFL and Rick Archer in moderation is seldom here toevenly
protect civil discourse. Kind thoughtful discussion is up tothe folks left here
to seize if it can be had at all. Kind discoursehas been 'thrown to the dogs'
on FFL to tear up by a lack ofmoderation let alone any self-control.
The bullies have run most wild here unchecked because nice people were not
protected and thoughtful folks often inside are afraid of embroiling mean
conflict upon themselves enough to invest in it, ..in provoking the bullying
Turqb asserting..“For the record, I apologize for nothing. Rien. Nada. Nichevo.
Bupkus. I meant everything I've ever said here, and stand by it fully.”
In thinking together, peopleoften may fail in process of creative thought out
of fears to extendthemselves individually in to the collective, for fear of
engagingwith evidently untrustworthy folks. Engagement that may
provokeunfriendly embroilment which potentially might be brought on
tothemselves by stepping forward in conversation. 'Thinking as process'takes
skills and practice to see dissonances as thinking and get goodat it, to get
beyond ego and not let it get out of control. Too manyof the writers in
character writing here derail creative thinking onFFL by their default to the
assault of the personal invective insteadof just commenting on a substance of
the material brought. Thatabusive character has been really unfortunate for the
larger FFLcommunity.
The challenge of FFL as a forum community is to find constructive ways of
engaging with people. Thattakes kindness, tolerance and patience as skillsets
and practice to be able to think together and be creative, to look at and solve
problems together. FFL is a long ways from that by a gripof vice of some folks
who dominate FFL.
Collaborating in'Disconfirmation': seeking different ways of looking at models,
of'thinking' in constructive conflict.Thoughtful conversation seems awilling
kind collaborative, a kind cooperative 'process indisconfirmation'. By contrast
a trust in kindness as element hasbeen driven out of Fairfieldlife at
Yahoo-groups by a dominantmethodical use of personal invective in the ad
hominem used as weaponto personally hurt people here.
Collaboration in a type of,Love? In kindness to a creative process?
Quite evidently thoughtfulconversation takes a civil kind collaboration in
self-control to haveproductive conversation. Some have done their poisonous
work herewith the communal well-spring.Collaboration? Could many folksdare at
all to publicly disagree here on FFL anymore given the lackof self-restraint in
the culture that remains on FFL? What is mostlymissing now from the dominant
FFL writing is a kindness to process, alove enough of collaboration that seems
necessary enough for there tobe creative thinking between people. Instead what
we have is aculture of rudeness that has long interrupted the communal
thinkinghere and driven people away.
The cultural place that was FFLseems to have been poisoned. The place evidently
has died for lack ofa willing collaboration as an oxygen that could include
other points ofview other than some caustic character of dominant internet
hatersand personalities in method. The cost to FairfieldLife atYahoo-groups has
been the loss of a forum for communal thinking.
A pervasive unkindness in ad hominem-istic snarkparading as 'intellectual
retort', it's the dominant 'culture' here atFFL now, as the evident lack in
thoughtful community culture here. Folks otherwise have come instead to fear to
spend their time thinking here reading let alone posting here. It is a sad
commentary on how it has gone down for FFL. Many of the writers left here have
in many ways become the people they revile, bullies like they see Bevan or
others in the movement community.
Salon, saloon or shalom; who would enter in to a place met with the likes of,
“You Suck..” or “Fuck you” as first text lines or “You lying Fuck” as a subject
heading? MJ, there was a long period of a poisonous malignancy here in the
postings between a few people who came on before you came along and added to it
in your way. FFL is just not a safe place for well-meaning people to loiter or
join in hence most folks wandered out. Meditators and people around Fairfield
here always go 'whew-phew' and roll their eyes about the reputation of FFL as a
place for thoughtful dialogue whence FFL gets mentioned. FFL got wrecked a
while ago as a community place that way. mjackson74 wrote, well Buck how do you
account for the departure of all the people who used to post on FFL in the
years before I joined? Looking back at the archives, there were a whole bunch
of folk who had already dropped out before I came along, so the fact that Judy,
Anne, Jimmy the Enlightened and Nappy Nabby jumped ship does not seem to be
that much of a recent trend.
Yep, even Rick chooses to post substantial material elsewhere now instead of
posting to FFL as to just shark-feeding for what is left remaining of FFL. A
long list of people is now gone before us who had once helped further the
culture of the list, mostly been driven off by an aggressive and appalling
unkindness of culture in the ongoing personal shark-like attack by the ad
hominem that evidently has become endemic here; that seeming 'professionals'
default to use in their writing method instead of simply dealing with material
posed. And those same complain about originality, thinking and lack of
creativity..Nothing to see here folks. Just another person trying to blame the
fact that he and the people he likes can't think of anything intelligent to say
on the people they don't like. :-)Good timing, Turqb,
Left or driven off? This as your thinking is fine as intelligent retort on one
level Anartaxius except, the low post and dwindled active member counts may
show something else.Looking in on the culture of what is FFL now, is it a
surprise the numbers have dropped off when there is so much about Fairfield or
larger spiritual matter being talked about otherwise by others actively
involved in it? No, it is like the well was poisoned here by some.Ironically
there is an evident invective that is intolerance to conversation here and to
divergent idea by a concentration of some few who remain active posting here.
It could be we are just getting on with our lives. Now that most of the TB
crazies have left, some of the tart, sharp conversation has dwindled, and there
are less opportunities for intelligent retorts. I think you would have welcomed
the change. 'Intelligent retort'?
We've not been very good at discussion here for some time on FFL and the place
as a forum is nearly dead.Yep, visiting looking back in on Fairfieldlife at
yahoo-groups evidently this is mostly a sad inhospitable place rendered down to
some pulp substance of travelogue, movie reviews and the personal bickerings of
a few. Om, for what once was Fairfieldlife, -JaiGuruYou
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