Edg, thanks for reply. I'd to read over when I have more time and can respond. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : It's a fair question. I have only sampled channeling here and there. I shouldn't have an opinion of much worth. But if I HAD studied for years, and certainly there's tons of folks who have done so, you'd think I would THEN have a strong list of validating concepts OR a good argument that it's bunk. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, I just don't find any expert who has definitively done that out there. The jury is still out. No one is nailing this issue down with a clarity that's final, and that's exactly what isn't surprising here -- karma is unfathomable. Nothing is good or bad except thinking makes it so -- this seems to be the case with channeling -- someone interprets the "moment of now," and that triggers personal resonance in "the destiny" of other nervous systems. Like: "Oh, Dearest of the Blesseds, for this morning's contemplations, hear my voice sing of the ancient raptures of the intensity! Come up with your spirits to my Endless Abode where I will welcome you with Hosts of adoring angels. Bring your burdens to me and know peace. "The Dark Intenders are quickening their ascending, but OUR LOVE is what I now guide. Have no fears. We will triumph! The Christ Soul inside all is now blossoming. "Spread this news with great cheer in your countenance. Know I am with you. Lift all heavenwards! "There's a Pot Luck at Fred's on Saturday, and we'll be taking up a collection to print up all my morning messages with special golden inks I will have blessed." SEE? That's just off the top of my head, and it obviously sucks, but it could be easily refined to make it palatable to the "suckers." But now let me walk all this back and say, "Maybe we're all channelers all the time!" My five-thoughts-per-second-human-mind-speed concept seems to support the theory that we're all a seething cauldron of ideation from which we can cherry pick any damned interpretation we want any damned old time. And more: maybe all of us are such perfect sidewalk-psychics that almost anyone can grok what anyone else is about -- in a general sense of things -- and this gives all of us the ability to "listen to our intuitions." Sure seems to me when a jyotishi looks at a chart, they're simply cherry picking the thoughts that arise -- choosing the ones that seem to "go with" the chart owner's mind. IT'S ALMOST VOODOO, eh? Heh. And when I'm walking down the street, I CONCLUDE about almost anyone instantly. Body language and all that aside, it's dang cool that all of us can do this so effortlessly. No surprise if birth-talent and practice make some folks VERY good at "channeling." All the above said, it seems obvious that any listener -- too -- can interpret any soothsayer's statements with pretty much 100% freedom to be wrong, but still come away thinking the palmist was spot on about the tea leaves with the chicken entrails mixed up in them on the Tarot card you chose. I don't mindfully ravel any given moment and see the threads individually, but it sure seems that anyone's nervous system DOES this "in the background," and is always at the ready. And usually it's "right." So, on that level, if I meet a channeler, if there's an opinion about me, I'll listen -- it's another expert maybe and I could get some speck of a notion that I could work up into yet another nice theory about me. But, geeze, me? In all of history, me? I'm so tired of me and all the ThreeStooge shit I get into. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Just a question, Edg, (and I know you don't seem to be one for much back and forth), but have you ever stumbled upon any "channeled" knowledge from a book, or otherwise that you've found useful and insightful. I am not setting a trap here. I only ask because, I have found such knowledge useful, even if I remain dubious from where it really came from. Nothing recently, but have in the past. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Yeah, I agree. Rick's scraping the bottom of the barrel. I shudda been a channeler -- perfect job for a bullshit artist with a penchant for flowery writing -- I could do this with my toes on an old Royal typewriter. Of course, lying to people's faces directly...this is the hard part. "I'm now Ramtha!" -- how do you keep a straight face? I mean, really. .......shit. On the other hand, my jury's still out about astral existence...could be the human nervous system is so good a foolery because it is exquisitely able to conjure up any concoction and run with it. Who didn't play cowboys and indians and feel like they were nailing the role, eh? Or, if after life existence does exist, then yeah, maybe a human nervous system of almost perfect quiescence could pick up on the mental broadcasts of some giant brain out there....... but gawd this is making me puke to even type it out. In today's modernity with 50,000 industrial chemicals in the environment, with hatred saturating the headlines, with every religion having a very black stain of certainty, who in the fuck are we kidding that anyone could get as subtle as channeling would actually require? Our nervous systems ARE JANGLING CONSTANTLY. And it's Kali Yuga baby -- GOD WANTS TO SEE HOW IT ALL GOES BOOM. I never read any channeled report that gave anyone any inside information that couldn't have been simply made up out of whole cloth. SCIENCE, people, SCIENCE....channeling is so easily tested for validity.