--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I think the point here is that one's credilbility > lies > > not in some sort of objective criteria we can all > > agree upon. These allegations of sexual advances > > and/or acts by MMY are believed by some and denied > by > > others. A lot of it has to do with our own concept > of > > what and who MMY is to us. Frankly, I see the > sexual > > allegations as true because of my own > > belief/experience in the credibility of the > accusers. > > I still also find MMY to be an amazing man/guru > who > > has been the catalyst for profound changes in my > > consciousness. Why he's poking around in the > bushes of > > CP's is beyond me! > > > **** > Dr Pete I find really intriguing your understanding > about MMY and > enlightenment. > You have explained many times how in enlightenment > there is no `I'. > And you have explained many times how you consider > MMY to be an > enlightened blazing Self, although he is also > narcissistic and goofy > in the personality department. > > When you say MMY to be an amazing man/guru, do you > mean the > narcissistic personality department? You couldn't > refer to the `I' > or self department, if there is no `I'? Or could > you? > > In a state of localized conceptual and intellectual > confusion I'm > waiting for your answer. > > > Irmeli I wouldn't want to leave you localized in conceptual and intellectual confusion! MMY has a localized value and an unbounded value to his being as everyone else does. MMY's personality is just that, a personality influenced/created by his unique and shared cultural experiences. It has its narcissitic traits as both you and I have talked about. But then there is an infinite value which is completely awake to itself. In most others this infinite value is only partially awake to itself. For what ever reason (dharma, karma, frequent high colonics), in MMY's presence, this infinite value completely dominates. Any finite value of the personality is experienced as false and insignificant in this context of infinity. The finite value has a dream-like falsenes to it: it's only a thought in this "huge" infinity. I have the same experience with SSRS. The only authentic difference between MMY and SSRS is the personality. SSRS is "sweet" as MMY has called him. He's a really nice guy. Very down to earth, open and friendly. But the infinite value in both of them is experienced in exactly the same way. There is no difference between the two. This infinity eats any boundary, any difference (it's poison, meditators should watch out for it!). So for me MMY is both this personality and infinity. Did that help? > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
