---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <upfronter@...> wrote :

 I don't think "judging" is the word. I see it as his willingness to move past 
what he sees as limited/narrow/ blinkered thinking and embracing something 
bigger and, for him, better. It reads positive to me, not negative. It reads as 
if this man, a pastor, is willing to dissect and understand where he is not 
comfortable and to do something about it. That is something many who are 
ensconced within a religious paradigm fail to do in an ongoing way.
 

 I sometimes think of this as a great chain of life where none is independent 
and all are of benefit to another in some way, even if not so obvious.

 

 Absolutely, upfronter. By living your life with this ability, you can hope to 
remain open and without ill will towards others in their effort to live their 
lives the best they know/can. I think it is a healthy viewpoint.
 

 In my opinion, any belief system will have to evolve or become outgrown by 
necessity because it must be alive to have effect - and anything alive cannot 
remain stagnant, whether conservative Christianity, so called, or even a more 
ancient system more pertinent to this forum – meaning, I think, that while 
certain aspects may come around in cycles upon themselves, they can never 
become what they once were, but something else is added because of what has 
taken place. It is changed, it must change, it becomes “new” to that group - 
although, as I see it, there is nothing new in complete and absolute Truth 
because, if it is Truth, then it has always existed.
 

 I have voiced this idea here before, about the inability of anything in life 
to remain static. Not only can you not force a thing to remain the same, it is 
not healthy to do so and "life" will wriggle away and keep changing anyway!
 

 My own understanding is that when a group in general becomes comfortable with 
their understanding of the certain aspect of Truth to which they have been 
drawn and which has brought to them a degree of self-realisation, awakening, 
enlightenment, revelation (or whichever appropriate word) - then that aspect of 
Truth is no longer enough for that group and is therefore losing its power by 
degree. 

 

 Then comes the increase of another aspect of realisation or revelation of 
Truth among individuals aligned to that group, which meets with varying degrees 
of opposition from the larger body as interfering, groundless based on existing 
modes of proof, meddling, even threatening. The greater the opposition and 
denial to the increase in this or that aspect of Truth through the stamping and 
trampling of that aspect into the earth by the associated group, then the 
stronger and firmer the roots of that aspect of Truth are compacted underground 
- roots which eventually make a showing as a strong plant that cannot be 
eradicated once exposed to the growth-promoting conditions of the open 
atmosphere now ready to accommodate what cannot be removed. And so on… 

 

 Sometimes the splinter groups that break off from a system are the more 
radical forms of growth and if they are too extreme they will not survive for 
long. Nature, and we are all bound by certain laws here, does not support 
aberrations. Now, you have to define aberration but for me anything that 
ignores the basic tenets of life is an aberration. When you place no value on 
the worth, feelings, right to exist of others then you are an aberration. When 
you basically function as a sociopath, or a psychopath for that matter, then 
you are an aberration and if nothing else, society will stamp you out, either 
as an individual or as a group.
 

 Just some thoughts… 
 

 Thanks for the feedback.


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