The Constitution’s Article 4, Section 3 for a more complete image: “Congress shall have the power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or property belonging to the United States.” Period … and that’s what’s held up in court over the years. Little v. United States in 1911, the Sage Brush Rebellion of the 1970s, and other mid-1990s land disputes as evidence of a consistent public disagreement with federal ownership. Although these situations have repeatedly popped up throughout U.S. history, they have led to the same judicial decision. The Supreme Court has continuously upheld the constitutional right of the federal government to own land — so why continue to fight this decision? We should all meditate on this and allow everyone involved to have victory in peace before war. History Of Land Disputes Shows The Malheur Occupation Is No New Phenomenon http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-occupation-land-oregon-standoff-history/ http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-occupation-land-oregon-standoff-history/ History Of Land Disputes Shows The Malheur Occup... http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-occupation-land-oregon-standoff-history/ If history tells us anything about the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, it's that land management disputes like this one are nothing new. View on www.opb.org http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/malheur-occupation-land-oregon-standoff-history/ Preview by Yahoo
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : We should be facilitating and let them have a meditation, count to ten and a quiet time and naturally avert the danger posed by this fundamentally ignorant and incoherent militant armed blight in our society. But local residents formed a counter protest to say the outsiders don’t speak for them. They gathered to demand that the outsiders go home and to show support for local officials and law enforcement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : ..should mobilize a group meditation there right now. Bring a little calmness to the armed wingnuts inciting insurrection there. Emotional Protesters Face Off In Burns http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/emotions-boil-over-on-both-sides-in-burns-protests/ http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/emotions-boil-over-on-both-sides-in-burns-protests/ Emotional Protesters Face Off In Burns http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/emotions-boil-over-on-both-sides-in-burns-protests/ Between 400-500 people from across rural Oregon and Idaho converged for a protest in front of the courthouse in Burns Monday. View on www.opb.org http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/emotions-boil-over-on-both-sides-in-burns-protests/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <maya_moon_...@yahoo.com> wrote : Several of the folks have been arrested; however, some are still at the refuge. Oregon occupiers’ live video stream shows suspense among holdouts https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-occupiers-live-video-stream-shows-chaos-among-holdouts-184643904.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-occupiers-live-video-stream-shows-chaos-among-holdouts-184643904.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Oregon occupiers’ live video stream shows suspense among... https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-occupiers-live-video-stream-shows-chaos-among-holdouts-184643904.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma The capture of its top leaders dealt the Ammon Bundy-led occupation of a federal wildlife refuge in rural Oregon a serious setback this week, but a few stragglers r... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-occupiers-live-video-stream-shows-chaos-among-holdouts-184643904.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators and Militia Madness Sage Remarks of an Avatar: I know the American People are much attached to their Government;--I know they would suffer much for its sake;--I know they would endure evils long and patiently, before they would ever think of exchanging it for another. Yet, notwithstanding all this, if the laws be continually despised and disregarded, if their rights to be secure in their persons and property, are held by no better tenure than the caprice of a mob, the alienation of their affections from the Government is the natural consequence; and to that, sooner or later, it must come. Here then, is one point at which danger may be expected. The question recurs, "how shall we fortify against it?" The answer is simple. Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well wisher to his posterity, swear by the blood of the Revolution, never to violate in the least particular, the laws of the country; and never to tolerate their violation by others. As the patriots of seventy-six did to the support of the Declaration of Independence, so to the support of the Constitution and Laws, let every American pledge his life, his property, and his sacred honor;--let every man remember that to violate the law, is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the character of his own, and his children's liberty. Let reverence for the laws, be breathed by every American mother, to the lisping babe, that prattles on her lap--let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in Primers, spelling books, and in Almanacs;--let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political religion of the nation; and let the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues, and colors and conditions, sacrifice unceasingly upon its altars. While ever a state of feeling, such as this, shall universally, or even, very generally prevail throughout the nation, vain will be every effort, and fruitless every attempt, to subvert our national freedom. -An Honest Abraham Speaks ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Isn't this what asocial terrorism hopes for: "This has been tearing our community apart," Ward said. "It's time for everyone in this illegal occupation to move on. It doesn't have to be bloodshed in our community. If we have issues with the way things are going in our government, we have a responsibility as citizens to act on them in an appropriate manner. We don't arm up and rebel. We work through the appropriate channels." "If we have issues with the way things are going in our government, we have a responsibility as citizens to act on them in an appropriate manner. We don't arm up and rebel. We work through the appropriate channels." the occupiers had been given "ample opportunities" to leave the refuge peacefully. "Instead, they have chosen to threaten and intimidate the America they claim to love," .. "This can't happen anymore. This can't happen in America, and it can't happen in Harney County." Oregon Sheriff On Occupation: 'This Can't Happen Anymore' http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/27/464590274/oregon-sheriff-on-occupation-this-cant-happen-anymore http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/27/464590274/oregon-sheriff-on-occupation-this-cant-happen-anymore Oregon Sheriff On Occupation: 'This Can't H... http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/27/464590274/oregon-sheriff-on-occupation-this-cant-happen-anymore At a news conference a day after several militants were arrested, local and federal law enforcement officials called for an end to the armed occupation of a federa... View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/27/464590274/oregon-sheriff-on-occupation-this-cant-happen-anymore Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Oregon Public Radio has really good reporting, interviews and programs on the armed occupation of our public lands today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Thanks, Emily.Mae, for bringing this article back to the top. I am appreciating now the author’s extraction of zealotry in the progression between the provided examples of extremism. This extracted description to the zealotry as the zealot in the end drops nicely in to the description of extreme islam or extreme TM where personality of rigid religious ideologues, even to be seen here at the top of TM, take off from a larger normative family of practitioners in to flight of of their own fancy. From the article: " Whence did he derive the moral justification? What filled him such certitude? Any attempt to answer such questions must plumb those murky sectors of the heart and head that prompt most of us to believe in God -- and compel an impassioned few, predictably, to carry that irrational belief to its logical end.... The zealot may be outwardly motivated by the anticipation of a great reward at the other end -- wealth, fame, eternal salvation -- but the real recompense is probably the obsession itself.... Thanks to his (or her) infatuation, existence overflows with purpose. Ambiguity vanishes from the fanatic's world view, a narcissistic sense of self-assurance displaces all doubt. A delicious rage quickens his pulse, fueled by the sins and shortcomings of lesser mortals, who are soiling the world wherever he looks. His perspective narrows until the last remnants of proportion are shed from his life. Through immoderation, he experiences something akin to rapture.... " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.ma...@yahoo.com> wrote : My daughter is reading the book referenced in this article (Under the Banner of Heaven) and made the same parallels. There are two main branches of Mormonism....the "fundamentalists" are a lot farther to the extreme. The Fundamentalist Religious Views That Inspired Ammon Bundy's Militia http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-krakauer/fundamentalist-religious-ammon-bundy-militia-oregon_b_8931762.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-krakauer/fundamentalist-religious-ammon-bundy-militia-oregon_b_8931762.html The Fundamentalist Religious Views That Inspired Ammo... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-krakauer/fundamentalist-religious-ammon-bundy-militia-oregon_b_8931762.html To understand the source of the Bundy's self-righteous anger, it's helpful to examine their religious views, which are rooted in a maverick strain of fundam... View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-krakauer/fundamentalist-religious-ammon-bundy-militia-oregon_b_8931762.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Gee: 1890-95, Americanism; euphemism for Jesus ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Mormonic terrorism on geee had From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditators and Militia Madness Doug, meditators don't need to have "a position" on anything, IMHO. We're individuals, not clones. And for pete's sake, let's not make the Oregon situation about religion. Americans in general are having enough problems dealing with how to regard Islam. We don't want to generate a burst of Mormonophobia, and it sounds as though that's where you're headed here. P.S.: The Bundys are Mormons, but others of the occupiers are not, and the Mormon church has strongly condemned the occupation.
