Whatever it takes. BTW, I would tax every bank transfer under a predetermined amount from the US to Mexico or Central America. That way, the illegals will contribute to pay for the wall.
From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, I wish you peace of mind and equanimity. P.S. Don't you think the wall should be built the same height below as above the surface? Get out your pocketbook Mike and determine how much of your savings/retirement you are willing to contribute. Me, I'll take my chances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have avoided all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS! That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans? Oh, the cheap migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do? They hold down wages? That's hysterical!! Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant workers. What about outsourcing by corporations? Who said there were no controls in place? You? Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no controls. Read about the latest tunnel discovered? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. 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