Well, I have to say I pretty much agree with you again Anne. I don't trust Trump any further than I could throw him. He says whatever he thinks will appeal to the most people.Most *Christians* are simply wearing a label by tradition. Parent and grandparents were baptized and so were they.Most Christians tend to be like secular Jews, by name only, not by practice. But those Christians that take their faith more seriously, for the most part, reject abortion on demand and see it as murder. They equate abortion with the holocaust and pure evil. And they will also draw parallels between today and events in the old testament.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Trump's Christianity ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Excuse me? "Most Christians believe the United States has greatly offended God with 50 million abortions..." Utter crap. This is little more than facile projection by the largely white male congregations of the most radical and repressed evangelical churches, decrying the ability of women to make their own choices. Why do fundamentalist conservatives always take their own shortcomings and try to make them "biblical prophecy or testimony"?? It is delusion, craziness, the attempt of a disordered mind to be brain-washed by egotism. I'll bet that many of those against abortion are madly in favor of the second ammendment. Again, a religionized attempt to let women know that the old white guys are still Firmly In Control. A pretty limp effort, imo Most Christians in this country go about their daily life to the best of their ability, not filled with the judgment and hatred of those who have fooled themselves into believing they talk to Jesus Christ, and are therefore unassailable. The country faces some problems, not the least of which are a bunch of racist and sexist religious fanatics. The Muslims? Hell no, all the "born again" Christians. Never content to live like normal folk, they need to get "born again" to flaunt their desperation and arrogance. I don't give 'em the time of day. If they want to stop pretending to be anything except just like everybody else, Jesus or no Jesus, I can interact, but all the exclusion and faux superiority makes me look on them with pity and their ideas with contempt, as they so richly deserve. Even Jewish Law passed down to "the chosen people" does not outlaw abortion. Same God, different day... (Applause) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : There are those that define a Christian as someone practicing the *religion* to the best of their ability and then there are those that define a Christian as someone having a relationship with Christ, as perfect or imperfect as it may be, regardless of the religious trappings.I think most people that consider themselves *evangelical* fully realize the short comings of Trump as an ideal reflection of Christianity but see him as an instrument through which God is working. There you go: they're utterly batshit, that proves it. They see him as a choice. Take a new road or keep going down the one that they really believe is bringing judgement or a deterioration of our country and culture. "New road" my ass. Donald's road is the same age as the day narcissism and self interest were born. Most Christians believe the United States has greatly offended God with 50 million abortions, as the Jews did with child sacrifices to Moloch, during the time of Jeremiah. God judged Israel, withdrew his protection and allowed the Jews to be conquered, destroyed the temple of Solomon and be taken into captivity in Babylon. Some see Trump as the fork in the road and we better take it. This is utter bollocks. "Most Christians" don't believe any such thing and Trump is the furthest thing from what might prove to be the salvation of the US. He is a chameleon who will glow whatever color he thinks his fans will want to see at any given time. He is neither true to himself nor to his addled supporters. Part of me would love to see him gain the White House just so I could watch those idiots who supported him lament the day they ever voted for the guy. It will almost be worth the price of what will happen to the country with him in power. He is a menace in every way - terrifying - and there will be nowhere to run. I am truly horrified that so many Americans are voting for him - a nightmare. From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Trump's Christianity Articles from two different brands of Evangelical Christianity: (liberal - C. Today; and conservative - Charisma Magazine) both find Trump's supposed Christianity troubling and add odds with their Biblical interpretations.C. Today says that his theology is closer to that of Norman Vincent Peale and Joel Osteen than their strict literal interpretations of the Bible.Charisma Magazine contributor Michael L. Brown in May 2016, ("Can We Question Donald Trump's Christianity?"), concludes: "But let's not foolishly proclaim him to be a Christian when, until recently, many of his ardent supporters acknowledge he was not. Just consider what a world changer Donald Trump could be if he really knew the Lord. Through prayer and God's mercy, it could happen.". 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