---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not that be a vile piece of advice? But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack? A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century Arabia. Or, that the phrase "70 virgins" actually translates as "70 raisins". I hope they have some bran flakes to go with those when they get to heaven, oh, and some milk too. Maybe sourdough toast and some marmalade while they're at it - that would be heavenly, although I prefer cinnamon and honey, myself. http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/2006/06/virgins-or-raisins/ http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/2006/06/virgins-or-raisins/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <hepa7@...> wrote : The Quran's Verses of Violence http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx The Quran's Verses of Violence http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of violence in the Quran. View on www.thereligionofpeace.com http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx Preview by Yahoo The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.