Well... sometimes we say things to give the appearance of altruism and open
mindedness at the expense of our common sense and intelligence. As I've said,
Islam or for that matter, any religion, in the hands of a thoughtful,
intelligent and reasonable person is one thing.Islam in the hands of the masses
with lower educations, influenced by their fundamentalists, is another. It is
the only religion today focused on expansion via violence and intimidation. It
is the only religion that openly advocates a death sentence if you leave the
faith. More importantly, it's a political and judicial system, enforced from a
religious perspective with religious zeal. It's dangerous for a society. Even
the thoughtful, open minded, Muslim is intimidated by the fundamentalist who
commands the ignorant masses. Muslims don't hesitate to kill their own if they
aren't fundamental enough. Power is in the hands of the simplest interpretation
of the Quran and Haditha.
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary
and unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is
all."
This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it;
some Muslims, unfortunately, do.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel.
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence,
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic
nations. no... it's not violent!
From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace.
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century
Arabia.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <hepa7@...> wrote :
The Quran's Verses of Violence
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The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on
their side. Once they do, things change.
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