There is a beautiful and much more detailed description of this process in Joan
Harrigan's book Kundalini Vidya. Just to give a hint: once Shakti has traversed
sushumna and reaches makara, She is stable. From there She and Shiva travel up
to crown chakra. But this is just the tip of the iceberg of wisdom contained in
Dr. Harrigan's book. I highly recommend it for any who are interested. It can
be ordered at PKYC in Knoxville, TN.
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 5:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this
solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the
macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of
love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth
called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or
forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The
kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively
charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual
sun.It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate
and rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The
kundalini fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and
it can only travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes.
While this is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full
expression in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and
now rapidly through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. [excerpt]
FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake
in the spine’, etc. Jeez people! I feel he stopped publicly talking about
these aspects of embodiment of the primordial in the light body of the human
being as it was too distracting for where a lot of people were at and where the
development of science was at in that time such that science then could not
back up what is the spiritual reality.
Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle
on it. That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch
up with spirituality in time.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.
I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™
consciousness paradigm don’t really get where people have gone in their
spiritual experience. More recently with the opening up of mental health
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems. That is okay as one
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has
cultivated other experience with it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote :
I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers
takes hold.
The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the
functions they perform. Breath may be something people can understand better
than say, chakras.
Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy,
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers: ‘Thin lines of energy
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ ..'Where exactly?'
Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people
and science was at in time. But clearly it was where he was going in his
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice. The guy was a visionary, sage,
empiricist and necessarily practical going forward. We don't have so much
guidance coming out of TM about it other than ideas of stress release and
meditation checking so people over the years have also gone on in their
experience.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Yes, thanks for the reply. I do believe that spiritual development is a tricky
endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening of
kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness. I suppose it is helpful to have
a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if necessary.
Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can
lead to mood making and other weird diversions . Always difficult to find the
right balance.
Still sorting that out in my own life
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes
on or grows. Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or
cultivated people. This as its own continuum is different from the
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum
different than consciousness development. In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa
people can surface periodically with troubles in the flow of their Kundalini
subtle system. This is particularly different than say psychological breaks
like bi-polar and such. It was not something we were much guided in but there
is a cohort of intuitive people and experienced people round who can be helpful
to folks whose subtle systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in
some ways to be easier with being a conduit for evidently more primordial
energy referred to as kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity. It can be a
topic of conversation around Fairfield on different levels.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
an particulars in this regard?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to
use. My wife in community working as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . Card’s
sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be relevant.
Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, the Ved
and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology process can
be handy to energetically reference; along with some kind of mindful intent
like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of the flow for
some people in their mists and rough with it all. Some things sort of like in
point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those.
Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went
haywire. 10th cranial nerve? Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to
it under a shade tree. But figure it out also by going to an old tractor
mechanic who has more experience with it.
ultrarishi offers:You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and his
Polyvagal Theory.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
"..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"
In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy,
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
=Charlie Lutes
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <hepa7@...> wrote :
Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to
correspond YS III 31:
kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
Some translations:
kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam[HA]:
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.[IT]: (32):(By performing
Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.[VH]:
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.[BM]:
>From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes
>steady.[SS]: (32):By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube
>located below the throat), motionless in the meditative posture is
>achieved.[SP]:
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute
motionlessness.[SV]: (32):On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the
body.---------I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles
and harder *rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it
seems to me the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing
it a couple of times in isolation, or whatever.It seems to me the physiological
counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus nerve, which is the main
parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki: The parasympathetic system is
responsible for stimulation of "rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2]
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially after eating,
including sexual arousal, salivation, lacrimation (tears), urination, digestion
and defecation. Its action is described as being complementary to that of the
sympathetic nervous system, which is responsible for stimulating activities
associated with the fight-or-flight response.
(Sorry for my inaccurate wording. As I've told before, I'm a "grammarian",
certainly not a "semantician"!)
* locative (in, at, on, into, etc) singular from naaDii
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