--- In [email protected], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Question below: > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], > > > "lurkernomore20002000" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead > > > > > mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to > > > > > remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? > > > They're > > > > > own? Where do they say this practice came from, > > > the > > > > > tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools > > > to > > > > > me. Of course all IMHO > > > > > -Sri Peter (Knows everything) > > **SNIPPAGE** > > > > Without the shakti of the guru, a mantra, while having > > some effects, will not produce them same effect as a > > mantra that has been "charged" with shakti. MMY even > > mentioned this once when asked if people who read one > > of the TM mantras from a newspaper and start to > > meditate with it would experience any benefits. He > > said they would, but it would be very slow. > > > **SNIP TO END** > > Peter (and anyone else), > > What's your take on the spectrum of possible positive/negative effects > of using for japa the big, public, > everyone-has-heard-this-innumberable-times type mantras without formal > initiation? Mantras like the Gayatri or the Mahamrytunjaya, etc.? > Understanding, of course, that one *could* receive initiation in their > use but that these are mantras that one might listen to already in any > number of different recordings. Already part of the chit. > > Thanks. > > Marek >
What a delicious question! Whatever the lineage of the mantra, it appears that the most important determinant of a mantra's effect on us is from which teacher it comes, specifically those consciously integrated most comprehensively with the most powerful Beings in our universe (e.g. Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma). Such mantra transmission from a teacher, who is integrated most comprehensively with the most powerful Beings in our universe, will be instilled with two qualities: First, the mantra selection itself will be comprehensively supportive for the recipient. What I mean is that as the practice [of meditation on that mantra] matures, the result of the experience will continue to be life supporting and bountiful for the adherent. There is no danger of the adherent finding their nervous system out-of-tune, or the mantra losing its 'juice' over time. In addition, by finding our mantra through a teacher who is closely and deeply aligned with a powerful universal being, we can be assured that there are no limits placed on our spiritual evolution, through use of that mantra. How do we know whether we have such a mantra? A simple test-- Time will tell; if we are not pleased with some aspect of our mantra meditation, we will stop. If, on the other hand, we find the mantra meditation naturally complements our life, we'll continue... Thanks. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Drugs Don't Discriminate. Get help for yourself or someone you know. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0I.OUB/ZbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
