--- In [email protected], Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 12/19/05 10:36 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > They can't really *admit* the lack of progress,
> > because that would be "off the program" and would make it
> > sound like they were doubting the all-holy teacher and
> > tradition, but they're very *aware* of their own lack
> > of progress.  ESPECIALLY if someone comes around and
> > talks about a basically normal, everyday experience of
> > enlightenment, something that really *should* be normal
> > and everyday in a real happening tradition.  The people
> > hearing this often get really, really, really, really
> > PISSED OFF. 
> 
> I can attest to this bit, here in FF. Some people get really upset 
at the
> suggestion that people around town might actually be enlightened, 
or Awake,
> or whatever you want to call it. It threatens their belief 
structure.
> Probably because these so-called enlightened people seem so 
ordinary.
>

Remind them of MMY's characterization of CC as "merely normal" 
or "glorified ignorance."

Besides, even within CC, there are ranges of maturity, from what MMY 
has said, and from my own internal observation of what I suspect are 
flashes of CC.





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