On Dec 19, 2005, at 7:04 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:30 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>
>
>> -- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Actually, part of the point of the post was that although TM
>>>>
> uses
>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> idea of the gap/sandhi to explain TM; in the full idea of what
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>> entails, TM only goes as far as 1 or 1.5 out of 7. There are a
>>>>
>>> whole
>>>
>>>> slew of other methods beyond that to reach the big "E".
>>>>
>>>> As a person offlist said to me that's what you call 'we were
>>>>
> given
>
>>>> one wheel, and lead to believe we had the whole bike.'
>>>>
>>>> Ouch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or perhaps you only recognize one wheel even though all of them
>>>
> are
>
>>> inherent in TM.
>>>
>>
>> Clearly this is not the case. It's amazing what clever marketing
>>
> can do.
>
>>
>>
>
> Not sure how this fits into the bike analogy, but here goes:
>
> When I read The Seven Levels of the Gap posting, I was struck that I
> could recognize my experience of the first level in the first
> paragraph; the junction between waking, dreaming and sleeping, and
> then pretty much zip until I got to the second paragraph of level
> 5: "your devotion changes to one of not knowing what's next", and
> then the second paragraph of step 6, especially, "This force of
> bliss pierces the skull and the body becomes the universe. This is
> automatic." and then step 7.
>
> So my experience of TM, according to this menu, took me from
> appetizer straight to dessert. Maybe the other stuff has been there
> too, though if so, fleeting experiences that were either so natural
> or so transient that I didn't really notice.
>
> Interesting point made in the second paragraph of step 5: "From this
> point on, there is no instruction given as to what to expect..."
>

None of the techniques are taught in TM unfortunately. Unless you'd  
actually experienced what these entail, my guess would be you're  
mistaking the map for the road. For example, at the third level of  
turiya you would have mastered the subtle breath and could go into  
breath suspension for hours or days at a time...


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