On Dec 20, 2005, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote:

Documentation of this exists where? And where's the evidence that 

what you are claiming actually involves the same processes as what 

TMers call TC?


Not what we we were lead to believe was TC. As I pointed out on numerous occasions: keep in mind where the gap appears (when the mantra ends) there are 24 levels of subtlety below that in the practices Guru Dev practiced. That's just an example, not shared as some 'absolute rule'. Hopefully you get the point.

And if there's "no instruction," which "none of these techniques" are 

you referring to?


They simply don't exist, what else can I say? However the "advanced" technique in TM of having the mantra in the hridayam is taught at the first level of turiya. Very important that. Love it! :-)



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