--- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
> > [...]
> > Now it is 
> > > difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world 
is 
> > being "saved". So the Dream 
> > > is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and painful. 
> > 
> > I must be truely insane. I find the New and Improved TMO to be a 
> > wonderous thing and genuinely have more expectations for it than 
for 
> > the TMO of the Merv days.
> >
> ********
> 
> I would be interested to know your criteria for evaluating your 
position. Specifically:
> 
> How will you know if you are correct in your belief in the 
Movement's immanent success?

"Immanent?"

Please clarify what you mean by calling it "immanent."

> 
> How will you know if you are mistaken?

About what? Having more expectations? Finding wonder in it? 

> 
> Do you have a "time line" in mind by which a judgement could be 
made?



Ah, you want me to define what success will be like. How about: not 
only making TM available, but making it mainstream enough that people 
might actually want to try it, even if (or perhaps, especially 
because) it costs a lot? How about actually building buildings for a 
permanent organization, and filling them with reasonably competent 
people?

And let us not forget the funny hats. Can't have a viable 
organization without funny hats.





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